Hello everyone! I hope that you are all well and life is blessing you daily! Ok, so I have a REAL simple and to the point one for ya today. I am curious if this Shield nickel Obverse is die doubling or something else? I swear on a lot of the letters it almost looks like there was a completely different letter there first and then the top letters were struck over top. Which I know is dang near impossible, but that is most definitely what it looks like. Because it doesn’t look like a doubled image of the same letters, but also doesn’t just look like splattered clay, when thrown like a fast ball at a wall (what the REALLY worn, late die state coins letters look like to me. lol!) either! and also the “2” in the date, most def something going on there, but doesn’t have the defined lines and/or look like something else under the 2, just looks like the flat mentioned above, kinda. So, a little help please? Also, what would you grade and/or value this coin? Thanks in advance for any and all assistance you can provide. Be safe and take care, friends!
I love the Shield Nickels . This is a Very fine example too . Can I see the date a little better ? There are repunched Dates on this year but I can't currently see your close enough . My grade would be a XF-45 to AU 55 .Thanks .
Here's an excellent site for grading these bad boys ! By the way, only 1 of the DDO have been found in doing my research on the subject . ANA Grading Standards for Shield Nickels
Yeah, I know! ThAts why I’m freakin out about it a little bit over here, brother. Have you zoomed in and taken a CLOSE look at the letters and stuff and how there literally are what look to be OTHER letters behind them? and yeah, I’ll get a better close up of the date if I can. Hold on.
Ok, so here are the closeups of my coin. Best I could get. And have you been able to find ANY photos of that pop 1 of PCGS’s? All I’m finding is the page with the empty photo space!
Ok, so in looking at a whole bunch of shield nickels of around the same years, a couple of them have this same type of anomaly. And actually the only other one that has the exact same type of anomaly, is ANOTHER 1882! And this one is in a PCGS slab, but the slab doesn’t mention anything about the anomaly! It graded cleaned or something like that. Here are screen shots from that eBay post. Ugh. I pray that this IS actually something special for once! It never seems to work out for me, every single tome I’ve found something of value. Lord I need it so bad right now. For something to just work out for once. That’s all I ask... But yeah, these are all of the coin in the slab pictured. Is it possible that it is ALSO super special??? However, like I said, I think mine has Much more definitive lines of the letters behind the top letters AND my coins 2 is most def a lot more effected by the existing anomaly. Let me know what you think, please my friends? Thanks in advance!
I see the doubling but it looks shelf-like ( Machine Dublin , I mean Doubling , He He ) . Like I said there have only been one found out ,of something like 11 million !! Keep Rolling , Peace .
In Coins Magazine, there is a note in the listings for 1882 and 1883 Shield nickels: "Many exist with excess metal at numeral 2 & 3, these should not be confused with the following overdate (1883/2)".
Longacre doubling, as @ldhair said. It's not unusual to see this on coins from the 1860s-1880s. Sorry, but it doesn't add any extra value to coin. Your coin has a filled 2. Howard Spindel lists them as being common on his site (scroll down and click on the filled 2, page 2 link) http://www.shieldnickels.net/1883_2/1883_2.html
Agreed. Longacre's in play. The date also doesn't look repunched. Oldhoopster may have the appropriate lead...
IGWT sure does remind me of Die deterioration. These five cent pieces caused all kinds of problems at the mint. Nickel being a very dense metal, caused dies to wear and fail much earlier in there life than those that struck copper silver and gold. Some of it could be longacre doubling but the mushiness and loss of details says DDD.
I'm not an expert or specialist. The eye appeal is great. In my opinion you have a really nice coin. Thanks for posting it, good luck.
Okay lets sum this up . We have a VF- AU coin with "worthless doubling" . Plain and simple . I have done extensive research on the 1868 shield Nickels and have some idea what I'm talking about .
As mentioned not a DDO, Longacre doubling and the 2 is what is referred to as a "Heavy 2" The die was chipping and filling in the spaces in the 2. They had this problem on most of the denominations in 1882. It's just a flaw of the design of the 2. Many dealers that don't know any better will often try and sell these as the 1883/2 overdate. In rare cases I've seen people trying to sell them as 1882/1 overdates. The "Heavy 2" is quite common. It is actually much tougher to find one with a clear 2.