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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Kirkuleez, post: 1948863, member: 36864&quot;]At the risk of sounding like a teachers pet here, I agree with Doug, the marks that he circled are clearly on the coin. I&#039;m not convinced that they are the result of a cleaning and should result in a details grade though. To me the number of bagmarks in the prime focal areas (as shown in the first image that Doug posted) would limit this coin to a 64 if I were buying it raw. It&#039;s just hard to judge correctly by images. </p><p><br /></p><p>One of our favorite dealer/moderator/members the lost duchman shows images of some beautiful coins that walked into his shop that often seem very bagmarked, but when he sends them out, he always seems to get a point or two bump over what I would have thought. I doubt that Matt is bribing the almighty finalizer at NGC, so I just have to assume that his photography technique shows bagmarks as more pronounced than they actually are. Other images by members are nearly spot on to true-vue images. I&#039;m not saying that Matts photography is poor, in fact I wish that all dealers would use this technique so that I would know what I was getting.&nbsp; I am just using this as an example. My photography is in the poor to shabby range.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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