1881 S Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Anduin, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. Anduin

    Anduin New Member

    This coin is being offered to me. The dealer says it is a "proof" 1881 morgan dollar S mint.
    What can you tell me considering this photos ? What is it worth ? Thanks in advance
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  3. derkerlegand

    derkerlegand Well-Known Member

    Ain't no S proof. While a very nice condition coin, looks highly polished.
     
  4. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I have bad eyes but I'd say it has been plated or heavily polished/buffed. Stay away from it as "if it looks too good to be true then it usually is". And don't go back to that "DEALER" - cause I think he's dealing more than just coins!!
     
  5. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    A lot of S mint morgans are somewhat reflective or "prooflike". But judging by the picture I'd say this one does not look natural, it has been seriously overdipped, polished, or worse. Certainly not a proof.
     
  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    This should tell you that NO proofs were minted 1881-S

    1881-S SILVER DOLLAR
    PCGS Nos:
    7130, 7131, 97131

    Mintage:

    Circulation strikes: 12,760,000
    Proofs: 0

    Designer: George T. Morgan

    Diameter: 38.1 millimeters

    Metal Content:
    Silver - 90%
    Copper - 10%

    Weight: 26.73 grams

    Edge: Reeded

    Mintmark: Small "S" (for San Francisco) beneath the bow on the reverse
     
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  7. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Go back to the dealer, tell him you did your research, and he has lost a customer for life.
     
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  8. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    He would just shut his trunk:smuggrin: and move on the next flea market!
     
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  9. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Proof?? As in proof that that his buffing pad is working very well?? :)
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  10. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    FUUUUUUUNNNYYY!!!!! Hope that don't get deleted!:D
     
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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Are you using a SONY cellphone to take the pictures?
     
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  12. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Probably would grade PCGS 70.

    Bright is best- clean and buff your coins.

    (Just Kidding, hope I don't get deleted)
     
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  13. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    No - not deleted..............
     
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  14. Anduin

    Anduin New Member

    Ok no proof in this year. But this seller is in the market for a long time and not known to sell fake coins. Do you think this is fake ? If not and considering it is not a proof, but a polished and cleaned coin how much it is worth ?
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I can infer at least two things from your photos and story:

    1) This dealer thinks you're an easy mark.

    2) This dealer has the ethics of a cockroach.
     
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  16. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    No value to a collector except for the silver content. Although plenty of "newbies" that will buy it - just let them know that it is polished!
     
  17. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Not a fake based on what I see. Probably worth a little more than melt, I would pay no more than $20. I would most likely stay away from that dealer though, chances are that the other stuff he sells is probably misrepresented too. Just because he doesn't sell fakes does not mean that he is not selling misrepresented coins.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It looks like a fake to me.
     
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  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    An 1881-S Morgan Dollar Proof does not exist. Any respectable dealer would know this, which means this person is not a respectable dealer. It's that simple. Some of them survive because the sheep demographic in numismatics is that large. It's likely real - these are far from uncommon and far from uncommon in high grade, although this one's been polished (the "gleam" on the obverse is far too homogeneous over the devices to be anything else) to the point where a grade is immaterial. I would not contemplate a value much above melt for this one.
     
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  20. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Looks like someone did a "flashplate" on it,maybe the eggroll boys....
     
  21. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Cracked it out of a Lucite paperweight?

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