1881 Indian MS64 BN Colorful Toning

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by BigTee44, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I don't see any brown MS64 Indians current or sold on eBay, and the 64 RB have sold all over the place from $145-$299....

    I know it's in an ANACS holder, but what do you think it's worth? I'm sure the toning has to add some value, but don't know how much.

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  3. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    nice Indian head cent...
     
  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

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    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  6. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice strike , that coin looks hammered .
     
  7. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    You can't really second-guess where the bidding on the toning is going to go. I know I wouldn't let it sell for under $200.
     
  8. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    Wow if that is not added toning i would say that if it is original it will add a huge premium to that coin maybe as much as 100 dollars!!
     
  9. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It's still in an ANACS holder because it wouldn't cross to PCGS or NGC due to AT.
     
  10. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    is AT, Added Toning ???
     
  11. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    The coin looks artificially toned (AT) to me and it would sell for a far higher price if it were in a problem-free NGC or PCGS holder.
     
  12. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Toning makes it look like a proof.
     
  13. coinguy-matthew

    coinguy-matthew Ike Crazy

    My thoughts exactly I just didn't want to ignite a firestorm.
     
  14. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Really think it's AT?
     
  15. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    I just bought it a month or so ago from a local coin shop. It was in his back inventory that I had to ask to see.

    What makes you think it's AT? I know you have a lot more experience than I do so just trying to see how I can tell in the future.
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    The toning does look questionable...but I'm surprised that this coin was slabbed if it looks specious in hand. Those old white ANACS slabs date back to when ANACS was a very reputable grading company (they pale in comparison today). I wonder if it is AT...if it was somehow toned in the slab.
     
  17. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    This slab is after the ANA sold ANACS to Amos Press, which means it is after the "golden age" of ANACS reputation.
     
  18. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Yes, I really think this coin is an example of AT.
     
  19. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    His question regarded what makes you think that. In an earlier thread I noticed you said you were involved in the PNG definition of "coin doctoring." Perhaps if you link him to that he can see if it clears things up for him.
     
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  20. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    To me the coin has the looks of being dipped in ms70
     
  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    How can you tell? Is it the serial number? I thought they changed the slab to the clear slab with blue tag after the company was sold.
     
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