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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;messydesk, post: 5206361, member: 1765&quot;]Here&#039;s the auction I think you&#039;re referring to -- the <a href="https://archive.org/details/rarecoinsfromabe1985bowe/page/n0/mode/2up" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://archive.org/details/rarecoinsfromabe1985bowe/page/n0/mode/2up" rel="nofollow">Abe Kosoff collection</a>.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t see a lead J-1621 in that sale, but there were some J-1617s.&nbsp; The lead J-1621 is unique and seems to have been sold by Kosoff in 1955.&nbsp; If yours is lead, it should be heavy.&nbsp; What&#039;s the weight?&nbsp; Can you post the original old holder?&nbsp; I assume you meant 19th century collection, not 18th.&nbsp; The real one was likely made under the table for a collector in the 19th century, and any holder for it was probably made by a more recent owner.</p><p><br /></p><p>At any rate, I&#039;d trust PCGS on this one.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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