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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;messydesk, post: 6351555, member: 1765&quot;]The clash will not be listed as a distinct VAM (typically a subvariety of one) unless lettering is transferred from one side to the other.&nbsp; If there is no doubling on the date and this is the medium oval O, and there is nothing else of note, then this would be called VAM 2 (open 9).</p><p><br /></p><p>The &quot;VNA&quot; pages are kind of the wild west of VAMWorld.&nbsp; There are some pictures that are thrown up there without due diligence, some are unidentifiable, some just heavily worn, and they aren&#039;t moderated or proof-read at all.&nbsp; They also aren&#039;t monitored to see if eventually, as a result of a detailed study of all the dies of a particular date and mint, they came to be listed as something.&nbsp; They&#039;re &quot;like a crazy aunt we keep down in the basement. All the neighbors know she&#039;s there, but nobody wants to talk about her.&quot; With the migration of the old VAMWorld to the new, all the timestamps on pages and files have been reset to August 2018, so it&#039;s not always possible to see how long they&#039;ve been there.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the course of doing a die studies, some people have come across &quot;VNA&quot; coins in photos on auction archives or on CoinFacts.&nbsp; These are coins that don&#039;t match anything that has been cataloged, but can&#039;t be sent to Leroy, because the person doing the study doesn&#039;t have the coin.&nbsp; In this case, they represent die pairs that are opportunities to get a variety listed if an actual coin could be submitted for inspection.</p><p><br /></p><p>If someone were to do a die study of 1879-O for the purpose of cataloging every die that was used, your coin would eventually become listed as something, probably something like &quot;VAM 2, Die 1&quot;, or VAM 2.1 for short.&nbsp; The next plain Jane 79-O Open 9, Medium O would be VAM 2, Die 2 (or VAM 2.2).&nbsp; This has been done for other VAMs where there are multiple die pairs that match the description, but they&#039;re just a touch different.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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