1879 Morgan dollar?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Nosaj, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

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    I have this 1879 Morgan dollar and I took it to a local coin shop to have it checked out. The guy weighed it and measured it and says it is the correct weight and size but it's a fake. I was surprised to hear that and asked why, he said that the lettering was not correct. So I grabbed my red book and I am confused about how it is not the right lettering.
     
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  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Dunno, but the lack of detail all through the center of the eagle sure looks questionable to me. Also I do think the bases on the reverse lettering look too fat.
     
  4. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    Is it possible that it's a error? When looking at the bottom pic from the red book they are very close in size.
     
  5. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I wish others more knowledgeable than me would comment, but I vote fake. The numerals in the date, the "mushy" stars, the lack of detail on the eagle's legs, all look off to me.
     
  6. SilverMike

    SilverMike Well-Known Member

    Mushy strike and stars and date looks off too. Probably not real.
     
  7. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    It looked good to me until I took a second look. The numerals in the date are wrong - especially the 7 and 9.
     
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  8. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    That coin is ALL wrong and the dealer you spoke with has a good eye. The 1st thing i noticed was that the date digits are off, but what REALLY seals the deal is- the arrow feathers on the reverse. 1879 P is supposed to have a slanted top arrow feather(rev of 79)
    Your coin has a parallel top arrow feather which was only used in 1878 on Philly mint examples.
    Edit- meant to say those arrows feathers arent technically correct for 1878 either, just that, they are off enough to confirm it fake

    Where did u acquire this coin?
     
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  9. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    I got it off of wish.com and thanks for your help.
     
  10. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    I dont know what wish.com is but return it if you can.
     
  11. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    Unfortunately I can't return it, I got it earlier in the year and been to long. Guess I have a great paper weight now lol. Oh well, is what it is. Thanks again.
     
  12. Morpheus

    Morpheus Active Member

    Yes, unfortunately wish.com is notorious for selling fakes. Chalk it up to a learning experience.
     
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  13. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Good catch. Wrong top feather for a Philadelphia 1879 Morgan.

    Here's the slanted top arrow feather (Rev of '79) that appears on every genuine 1879 Philly Morgan.
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    A parallel top arrow feather (Rev of '78) appeared on most 1878 Morgans.
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    No-One-Asked Part I: Some 1878 Philly Morgans have the Rev of '79.
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    No-One-Asked Part II: The San Francisco Mint produced some 1879-S Morgans with the Rev of '78.
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    And that's about 90% of my specialized Morgan knowledge. Mostly, it just gives me a headache. But plenty of folks love that stuff: VAMWorld.
     
  14. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    Sweet! Thank you for the help.
     
  15. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    And what did wish.com charge you for this piece of metal?
     
  16. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    I believe it was $15.00 I paid for it.
     
  17. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    So about the same price as for a real dollar. Wow. These kind of people are going to hinder coin collecting and scare people off.
     
  18. Nosaj

    Nosaj Member

    That price included s&h so that was total. Either way it is what it is.
     
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