1879 Morgan Dollar - Carson City

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Clens, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Clens

    Clens Junior Member

    Hi All,

    I've been offered the chance to purchase what appears to be an 1879 CC Morgan dollar. It isn't magnetic (so I'm fairly confident it's genuine), but the coin looks a bit clean - to my eyes. Do you think it has been cleaned at some point?

    Any ideas on grade / value would be greatly appreciated! Whilst not wanting to pay over the odds, I don't want to lowball the guy either.

    Thanks, Tom


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  3. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    It looks cleaned to me. You should take straight on photos, so it can be properly examined.
  4. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    The overall appearance of the coin is highly suspect, and this is beyond the fact that the mintmarks appear to be incorrect for this date. Perhaps it is just the less-than-idea photos, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.

    Also, the fact that what purports to be a coin is non-magnetic in no way indicates authenticity.
  5. Clens

    Clens Junior Member

    Thanks for this - will bow to your knowledge and probably steer clear of it!
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    agreed, just by the "look"
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  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I think the coin is not genuine. This is a date that one buys in a slab, not raw.
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  8. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    I have seen fake coins in authentic slabs before. Don't totally trust slabs. I only own couple of slabs which I bought as a curiosity, still haven't decided if crack open or sell them as they don't fit with me. If you know what you're doing I see no problem buying raw.
  9. K2Coins

    K2Coins GO GATORS

    The mint mark appears to be added to me
  10. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It all depends on the grading service. What slabs do you own?

  11. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    This looks like a VF Details/Cleaned VAM-6. The cleaning is not the "scrubbed" variety. It is the complete loss of patina and dull appearance....perhaps from being in the pocket of a pair pf pants washed with strong detergent. There are some other obverse and reverse markers which will tell the story. The VAM 6 is the only 79-CC with a centered mintmark.
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    While the position looks quite good in reference to VAM6, even with an overlay, have you closely looked at the mintmarks themselves?
  13. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It's a Chinese counterfeit.
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  14. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    @Clens, I'm still fairly new here, but if it's one thing I've learned, it is the old adage "if it's too good to be true, it probably isn't". Did he give you a price at all?

    One of my first large purchases was a U.S. Trade Dollar; also a highly-counterfeited coin. It turned out to be fake, but made of silver. Only by asking here did I avoid a big mistake.

    (And the eBay seller had a return policy!)

    Be patient, ask here first, do your due diligence with research, and buy from trusted sources ONLY (and possibly only slabbed) when starting out.
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Rarely. I would NEVER buy a better date coin that wasn't slabbed, and purchased from a reputable dealer. 1879cc is the third toughest date in the Morgan series to find a nice one (tied with 1884s in uncirculated condition, and 1895o), and as such, why even think of considering what is obviously a fake.
  16. legacya

    legacya New Member

    Probably real but clearly heavily cleaned. Don't buy this coin anyway.
  17. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It's not real.
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