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<p>[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1209112, member: 13650"]I had written up something similar to what Race just stated but I decided not to get in the middle of another "is it real, is it fake" argument and deleted it. </p><p><br /></p><p> All I would add to what RB just stated here is that not only is the toning too perfect, but the overall condition is too perfect. If it was really taken care of this well, it should have natural toning with maybe some (maybe a lot) of luster remaining. You see this on most Chinese counterfeits. They're newly made and absolutely perfect condition but look dirty. There won't be a mark anywhere in the fields. Liberty's cheek will be perfectly clean which is very rare. Usually only MS-66 and up Morgans will have a perfectly clean cheek and some of those still don't. </p><p><br /></p><p> Weight, diameter and sounding tests are always a good test, but still may not always settle it. Some of them will melt junk common stuff to make rarer ones like CC's so people can profit more. The metal content will be right. </p><p><br /></p><p> Other fakes I've seen are far from perfect, to a novice collector. But they are really getting good at Morgans. This very well could be a fake that his grandfather ended up with somehow. The Chinese have been making fakes for a long time. Or, he could have bought them on ebay and lied to you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Vess1, post: 1209112, member: 13650"]I had written up something similar to what Race just stated but I decided not to get in the middle of another "is it real, is it fake" argument and deleted it. All I would add to what RB just stated here is that not only is the toning too perfect, but the overall condition is too perfect. If it was really taken care of this well, it should have natural toning with maybe some (maybe a lot) of luster remaining. You see this on most Chinese counterfeits. They're newly made and absolutely perfect condition but look dirty. There won't be a mark anywhere in the fields. Liberty's cheek will be perfectly clean which is very rare. Usually only MS-66 and up Morgans will have a perfectly clean cheek and some of those still don't. Weight, diameter and sounding tests are always a good test, but still may not always settle it. Some of them will melt junk common stuff to make rarer ones like CC's so people can profit more. The metal content will be right. Other fakes I've seen are far from perfect, to a novice collector. But they are really getting good at Morgans. This very well could be a fake that his grandfather ended up with somehow. The Chinese have been making fakes for a long time. Or, he could have bought them on ebay and lied to you.[/QUOTE]
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