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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;raider34, post: 663477, member: 16402&quot;]Very true Jim, I should restate what I was trying to say.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are certain patterns and colors that have been excepted by the tpgs, and many toning experts as being &quot;natural&quot;, and there are also colors and patterns that have been considered &quot;unnatural&quot;. It&#039;s very possible that a coin could naturally tone in an envelope for say 6 months, but the toning could be considered questionable, or unnatural. Imo this is the case with Kevin&#039;s coin, while technically the coin naturally toned in the rag, the toning that developed would be considered at the very least questionable, or even artificial.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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