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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 659446, member: 15309"]As we have stated before, definitively determining the origin of toning is nearly impossible. However, we can use indicators that will help us predict the origin of the toning to a high level of certainty, even if not 100%. This coin has many indicators of AT. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><ol> <li><b>Color</b>: These colors are not typically found on rainbow toned Morgan Dollars. More often than not a coin dominated by blue and purple is an AT creation. I can't remember the last time I saw dull mustard yellow on a Morgan.</li> <li><b>Progression</b>: The color progression does not follow the typical yellow-magenta-cyan typically seen on NT coins.</li> <li><b>Pattern: </b> The toning scheme on this coin is highly unusual. It is definitely not bag toned. It could be envelope toned, but I think it had help.</li> <li><b>Toning Alignment:</b> When coins are toned on both sides, examining the orientation of the toning with respect to each side is important. Air transfer toning takes years to form. The coin must remain undisturbed in the right conditions near it's toning source. Usually, you would expect that the area that shows the most advanced toning on the obverse would be closest to the toning source. Likewise the toning source would have to also be close to the reverse at the opposite pole. This coin has an untoned area between 10 & 11 o'clock. Therefore, we would expect that the area between 6 & 7 o'clock on the reverse show the least advanced toning. However, it actually shows the most advanced toning. Having said that, an envelope would negate this indicator because both sides would have an independent toning source.</li> <li><b>Condition:</b> The coin is an AU coin. There was no risk experimenting on this coin because it was really only worth melt anyway. If this coin was MS65+, I would be more willing to entertain the idea that is developed the toning from some horrible improper storage conditions.</li> <li><b>Overall Appearance:</b> It is not difficult for anyone used to toned Morgans to notice that this coin just doesn't look right. Furthermore, the artificially created toning is not even attractive. IMO, this coin is hideous. If it wasn't silver, I would throw it off a bridge into the ocean. As it is, it is worth melt.</li> </ol><p>It is hard to ignore the fact that this coin shows 6 indicators of artificial toning. It very well could be an envelope toned coin, but we know where my vote is <span style="color: Blue"><b>AT</b></span>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 659446, member: 15309"]As we have stated before, definitively determining the origin of toning is nearly impossible. However, we can use indicators that will help us predict the origin of the toning to a high level of certainty, even if not 100%. This coin has many indicators of AT. [LIST=1] [*][B]Color[/B]: These colors are not typically found on rainbow toned Morgan Dollars. More often than not a coin dominated by blue and purple is an AT creation. I can't remember the last time I saw dull mustard yellow on a Morgan. [*][B]Progression[/B]: The color progression does not follow the typical yellow-magenta-cyan typically seen on NT coins. [*][B]Pattern: [/B] The toning scheme on this coin is highly unusual. It is definitely not bag toned. It could be envelope toned, but I think it had help. [*][B]Toning Alignment:[/B] When coins are toned on both sides, examining the orientation of the toning with respect to each side is important. Air transfer toning takes years to form. The coin must remain undisturbed in the right conditions near it's toning source. Usually, you would expect that the area that shows the most advanced toning on the obverse would be closest to the toning source. Likewise the toning source would have to also be close to the reverse at the opposite pole. This coin has an untoned area between 10 & 11 o'clock. Therefore, we would expect that the area between 6 & 7 o'clock on the reverse show the least advanced toning. However, it actually shows the most advanced toning. Having said that, an envelope would negate this indicator because both sides would have an independent toning source. [*][B]Condition:[/B] The coin is an AU coin. There was no risk experimenting on this coin because it was really only worth melt anyway. If this coin was MS65+, I would be more willing to entertain the idea that is developed the toning from some horrible improper storage conditions. [*][B]Overall Appearance:[/B] It is not difficult for anyone used to toned Morgans to notice that this coin just doesn't look right. Furthermore, the artificially created toning is not even attractive. IMO, this coin is hideous. If it wasn't silver, I would throw it off a bridge into the ocean. As it is, it is worth melt. [/LIST] It is hard to ignore the fact that this coin shows 6 indicators of artificial toning. It very well could be an envelope toned coin, but we know where my vote is [COLOR=Blue][B]AT[/B][/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
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