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Message:: [QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 2297451, member: 37839"]Let's be objective--if it were not in a GSA holder, we would all have said "Unc Details--cleaned" from the get-go.  I think that many of us (myself included, when I called it a "rough looking MS 62") assumed that it was uncleaned and undamaged, because it was in a GSA slab.  Had it not been, and was it a raw coin, I guarantee that based on the obverse, with the obvious cleaning marks and dulled luster, and the reverse, with the excessive number of deep nicks and hairlines in a buff pattern would have screamed "details" coin.   We all know that some damaged coins snuck into the GSA horde, as did some circulated ones.  So, it is obvious and logical that a small percentage of them were cleaned.  Nobody was touting that coin as "high end" uncirculated--face it, it looked pretty beat up for a GSA.  Low MS grade, maxing out at 63, according to most people.  SO, what is the surprise in it being cleaned?  The holder.  We all know that it is and was possible for cleaned, circulated, and damaged detail coins to make it into any holder--so that is clearly what happened here.[/QUOTE]