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<p>[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1834892, member: 15019"]There are many high end counterfeits of these trade dollars and other US copper and silver coins on eBay lately. The problem is that comparing the obverse/reverse details is not useful as they are 100% spot on due to modern laser etching technology. The edges can still give good clues, but these are rarely shown in eBay pictures.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are some from different accounts operated by the same people, I believe all of these to be high end modern fakes, produced in correct purity silver and usually exactly correct weight:</p><p><br /></p><p><u>1870 Seated Liberty quarter:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-Seated-Liberty-Quarter-/111227804814?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19e5b19c8e" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-Seated-Liberty-Quarter-/111227804814?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19e5b19c8e" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-Seated-Liberty-Quarter-/111227804814?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19e5b19c8e</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>1875 CC 20 cent:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1875-CC-Twenty-Cent-Piece-/251385150158?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8face" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1875-CC-Twenty-Cent-Piece-/251385150158?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8face" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1875-CC-Twenty-Cent-Piece-/251385150158?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8face</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>1876 20 cent:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-20C-TWENTY-CENT-PIECE-/251358178529?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d6ce1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-20C-TWENTY-CENT-PIECE-/251358178529?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d6ce1" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-20C-TWENTY-CENT-PIECE-/251358178529?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d6ce1</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>1927 S quarter:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-S-Standing-Liberty-Silver-Quarter-/251358174221?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d5c0d" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-S-Standing-Liberty-Silver-Quarter-/251358174221?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d5c0d" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-S-Standing-Liberty-Silver-Quarter-/251358174221?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d5c0d</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>1836 Gobrecht dollar:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1836-Gobrecht-1-Dollar-/251385119166?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b881be" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1836-Gobrecht-1-Dollar-/251385119166?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b881be" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1836-Gobrecht-1-Dollar-/251385119166?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b881be</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Trade dollars:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-Trade-Dollar-/261359129370?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cda37d31a" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-Trade-Dollar-/261359129370?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cda37d31a" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-Trade-Dollar-/261359129370?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cda37d31a</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-cc-Trade-Dollar-/251408779792?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a89218a10" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-cc-Trade-Dollar-/251408779792?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a89218a10" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-cc-Trade-Dollar-/251408779792?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a89218a10</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385139588?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d184" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385139588?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d184" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385139588?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d184</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385138391?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8ccd7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385138391?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8ccd7" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385138391?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8ccd7</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-Trade-Silver-Dollar-holed-Repaired-/251385136562?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8c5b2" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-Trade-Silver-Dollar-holed-Repaired-/251385136562?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8c5b2" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-Trade-Silver-Dollar-holed-Repaired-/251385136562?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8c5b2</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385134519?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8bdb7" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385134519?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8bdb7" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385134519?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8bdb7</a></p><p><br /></p><p><u>Seated Liberty dollars:</u></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358155876?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d1464" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358155876?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d1464" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358155876?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d1464</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358156826?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d181a" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358156826?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d181a" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358156826?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d181a</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358167464?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d41a8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358167464?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d41a8" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358167464?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d41a8</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1842-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385140984?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d6f8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1842-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385140984?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d6f8" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1842-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385140984?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d6f8</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1845-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-repaired-/271338972007?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d102367" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1845-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-repaired-/271338972007?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d102367" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1845-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-repaired-/271338972007?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d102367</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1847-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-/271338969404?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d10193c" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1847-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-/271338969404?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d10193c" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1847-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-/271338969404?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d10193c</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1869-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385132282?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8b4fa" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1869-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385132282?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8b4fa" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1869-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385132282?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8b4fa</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Check out these seller's other coins. They include many early US copper cents and 1790's to early 1800's silvers. Scary thing is that a few of these coins are in NGC holders, though generally not the most high priced items they have. They also have a lot of the more commonly seen types of counterfeited foreign coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>ID's are:</p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yeehingho&ftab=AllFeedback" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yeehingho&ftab=AllFeedback" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yeehingho&ftab=AllFeedback</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=eastoninternational2013&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=111227803395&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=eastoninternational2013&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=111227803395&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=eastoninternational2013&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=111227803395&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sharivwilliams&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=271338975274&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sharivwilliams&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=271338975274&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sharivwilliams&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=271338975274&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=lidaqd&ftab=AllFeedback" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=lidaqd&ftab=AllFeedback" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=lidaqd&ftab=AllFeedback</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=307michael&ftab=AllFeedback" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=307michael&ftab=AllFeedback" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=307michael&ftab=AllFeedback</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alallala&ftab=AllFeedback" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alallala&ftab=AllFeedback" rel="nofollow">http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alallala&ftab=AllFeedback</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numismat, post: 1834892, member: 15019"]There are many high end counterfeits of these trade dollars and other US copper and silver coins on eBay lately. The problem is that comparing the obverse/reverse details is not useful as they are 100% spot on due to modern laser etching technology. The edges can still give good clues, but these are rarely shown in eBay pictures. Here are some from different accounts operated by the same people, I believe all of these to be high end modern fakes, produced in correct purity silver and usually exactly correct weight: [U]1870 Seated Liberty quarter:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1870-Seated-Liberty-Quarter-/111227804814?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item19e5b19c8e[/url] [U]1875 CC 20 cent:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1875-CC-Twenty-Cent-Piece-/251385150158?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8face[/url] [U]1876 20 cent:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-20C-TWENTY-CENT-PIECE-/251358178529?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d6ce1[/url] [U]1927 S quarter:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1927-S-Standing-Liberty-Silver-Quarter-/251358174221?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d5c0d[/url] [U]1836 Gobrecht dollar:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1836-Gobrecht-1-Dollar-/251385119166?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b881be[/url] [U]Trade dollars:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-Trade-Dollar-/261359129370?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3cda37d31a[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1876-cc-Trade-Dollar-/251408779792?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a89218a10[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385139588?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d184[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1877-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385138391?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8ccd7[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-Trade-Silver-Dollar-holed-Repaired-/251385136562?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8c5b2[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1874-Trade-Silver-Dollar-/251385134519?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8bdb7[/url] [U]Seated Liberty dollars:[/U] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1873-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358155876?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d1464[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358156826?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d181a[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1860-LIBERTY-SEATED-S-1-/251358167464?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a861d41a8[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1842-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385140984?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8d6f8[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1845-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-repaired-/271338972007?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d102367[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1847-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-/271338969404?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3f2d10193c[/url] [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1869-Seated-Liberty-Dollar-holed-/251385132282?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item3a87b8b4fa[/url] Check out these seller's other coins. They include many early US copper cents and 1790's to early 1800's silvers. Scary thing is that a few of these coins are in NGC holders, though generally not the most high priced items they have. They also have a lot of the more commonly seen types of counterfeited foreign coins. ID's are: [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yeehingho&ftab=AllFeedback[/url] [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=eastoninternational2013&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=111227803395&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller[/url] [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sharivwilliams&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=271338975274&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller[/url] [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=lidaqd&ftab=AllFeedback[/url] [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=307michael&ftab=AllFeedback[/url] [url]http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=alallala&ftab=AllFeedback[/url][/QUOTE]
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