1877 indian cent

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  1. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Yes. I remember well when 65 was as nice as it got.

    I forgot to say that I am holding that 'ole '09 Lincoln in my hand at this moment.
     
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    How did you crack it from the glass without risking glass shard scratches? Or did you just grab a hammer and prayed?
     
  4. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Oh geesh. That was the best part of the story and I forgot to even tell it.

    I can home from a shoot (I was a reporter for an NBC affiliate on the side back then) and my wife said "Matt has something to tell you papa, go ahead Matt." And my little boy showed me that he stood the glass on end and tapped it with his closed Boy Scout knife until it shattered into a million sharp, little pieces. My shame is that I yelled at him for ruining it and made him cry. (he's 34 now and I still recall that with guilty feelings). I then checked it out with a 16X glass.

    Since it was out and miraculously unharmed, we decided to try this newfangled grading company. I hadn't yet dreamed of owning a personal computer yet so went to Coin World to find the nearest submitter and he was in State College Pennsylvania. a place where we once lived after we went to school there and still loved to visit.
     
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  5. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

    Update- decided to give the coin 1 more shot with pcgs. If it gets a straight grade or a details grade-it's going to auction....
     
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  6. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

    The risk is if it were to get a cleaned designation from pcgs, I lose the option of returning it to the QC designation. Oh well (fingers crossed)...
     
  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Best of luck with the submission, John.
     
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  8. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Hope it gets straight graded - they you will have a really good story.:facepalm:
     
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  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Roll those dice Mr. Papageorgio!... Daddy needs a new pair of shoes :)

    Scared money never plays so I would've done the same. Hope it works out!
     
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  10. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

    I put in a dollar I got a car, I put in a dollar I got a car, I put in a dollar I got a car.....
     
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  11. Obsidian

    Obsidian New Member

    Curious to see what PCGS says this time around. Keep us posted!
     
  12. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

    update- came back from pcgs with a QC unc details grade. It's going to auction at the ANA....
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    It looks fine to me. Personally, I would let the coin tone-down for a straight grade. I think you'll get more for the coin in a graded slab.

    I've played this game before with them on color. Just leave the coin in open air sitting on a piece of cardboard for months, occasionally flipping. The coin will start to brown a little and change color, it will look more "natural". Once it gets to that point, then resubmit. This process WORKS, I've done it quite a few times.

    I'll say it again, most often it is NOT true "questionable color", the color is usually quite natural but it simply doesn't fit into their "model" of how a coin in their slab should look. Just because they doubt the color doesn't mean a coin has been tampered with!
     
  14. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    It has an adobe-pink color as it may have been dipped...a very nice coin...crack it and re-submit it to NGC.
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    AFTER it tones down!
     
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  16. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    Looks like a nice Indian cent to me. I can see why it "broke your heart."
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It won't have a picture. They've only done pictures on their site for two or three years, and they don't image every coin, in fact just a small percentage of them.


    Why? Right now its a MS-64. If it comes back that again you'll have almost as much tied up in it in grading fees as the coin is worth.
     
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  18. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

    Not sure what you're trying to tell me Conder???
     
  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If I owned this coin I would just put it away and watch it for a while in it's current holder. You never know what just a change in holders will do to the color of copper. They get a nice fresh gulp of whatever air is in the room at the time. Over time this coin will straight grade.
     
  20. johnmatt

    johnmatt Well-Known Member

  21. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I still think it's too orange to be original.
     
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