1875-S Twenty Cent Super Rare Proof?

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  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Here it is. What do you think? Only 7-9 are known to exist.



    This isn't my coin, the owner gave me permission to list it here.

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  3. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Holy... freakin'... cow.

    Nice coin.

    And it's raw? Wonder why.
     
  4. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Very nice.

    There are still a lot of collectors who like coins raw. Them and a lot of dealers know enough to purchase them that way. I use several dealers I trust to buy raw coins from.
     
  5. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Boy that eagle is criiiiiisp. I can't even afford a 20 cent piece let alone that.
     
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  6. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    So would you say it's the proof?
     
  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Wonder what happened to the rest of them? There were 1,155,000 minted!

    Beautiful coin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  8. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I'm not an expert. The eagle looks sharper than a normal issue, super sharp actually. But the obverse has a weak head and cap.... but that might just be the angle and lighting.
     
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  9. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member


    Total yes, but some of them used the dies from the Philly mint used on proofs.
     
  10. HoosierDaddy

    HoosierDaddy Active Member

    Coolest one I've seen!
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's not a proof. The S mintmark tells us that.
     
  12. BigTee44

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  14. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Lifted from Heritage:

    'The diagnostics he listed are: three horizontal scratches in the bars of the shield and a small triangular die chip very near the staff just below the hand. On the reverse, there is a small scratch from the bottom leaf above the T in CENTS to the S in CENTS, and there is pronounced separation from overzealous die polishing on the bottom serif of the S in CENTS. All these diagnostics are present on this coin except the three horizontal scratches.'

    http://coins.ha.com/itm/twenty-cent...-20c-artificial-toning-ncs-proof/a/1136-843.s

    Not sure about what looks like a die clash to the right of the arm, but the die chip appears below the hand, and the serifs on the TS in CENTS look similar to the proof coin, although your pictures are a bit blurry. Interesting, and I would certainly look into it more!
     
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  15. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    From same heritage auction:

    'The striking details are not absolutely complete, but not all branch mint proofs show the same strength of strike as their Philadelphia counterparts. It may well be that branch mint personnel were not familiar with the requirements for proof production as were employees in Philadelphia--they may well have been more concerned with producing a "pretty coin" for some occasion, than adhering to the rigorous requirements of proof coinage in the mother mint.'

    Your insightful concerns may not rule out a proof. I'm no expert either!
     
  16. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I was just reading on a book on Twenty Cent pieces - It mentioned "See why the 1875-S" is not really a proof. Might just be what beef1020 mentioned.
     
  17. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Just wondering why is that? Mylar coin pictures don't turn out as well as just raw under the camera!!
     
  18. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member


    http://www.doubledimes.com/1875S-BMP.html
     
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  20. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    That's what we're trying to figure out
     
  21. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Well the eagle looks fantastic as compared to the proof page and your picture shows a dislocated left side of the "T" -
    that's a start!
     
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