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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Owle, post: 1431026, member: 22004&quot;]I don&#039;t know how they get into slabs some of the obviously worn $20s I have seen.&nbsp; There are lots of debates on &quot;rub&quot; vs. &quot;wear&quot; vs. &quot;cabinet friction&quot; and I have known dealers who will make arguments all day long on how their problem coins *should* grade were the grading companies truly impartial and &quot;objective&quot;. Check out this site and his uncertifiable rarities: <a href="http://www.linumis.com/store.php" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.linumis.com/store.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.linumis.com/store.php</a>&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>Even dealer &quot;authorities&quot; like Doug Winter will sell overgraded coins without discounting those items greatly which would be the ethical thing to do.&nbsp; I saw an &quot;MS62&quot; $1879 $20 on his site that was MS61 at best and he wanted nearly full &quot;Trends&quot;.</p><p><br /></p><p>Look sometime at all the auction listings without descriptions, which is telling that the cataloger considered it beneath his or her professional dignity to justify an item with a description of the merits of the coin.&nbsp; He is not going to say, &quot;this coin is low-end, it has problems the graders missed, I am really and truly ashamed it is in our prestigious auction&quot;.&nbsp; Images tell the story ultimately and I&#039;ll be the grading companies will bid on overgraded dogs with problems so that the coin does not continue to embarrass them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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