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Message:: [QUOTE="stldanceartist, post: 2613483, member: 13307"]Fine? I don't think that coin (if genuine, I'll let some IHC specialists determine that - but it looks okay to me at first glance) is anywhere close to being as low as a Fine.  It's more like an AU to me.  It looks like the PVC from the flip has gotten all over it (will need conservation) and maybe that's clouding the luster underneath.  (Just to be clear [USER=74863]@Collecting Nut[/USER] - I'm not picking on you at all, but that coin has WAY too much detail to be a F.) Here is a screenshot from the <a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/Indian/Grades" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/Indian/Grades" rel="nofollow">PCGS Photograde</a> site for a F-15: [ATTACH=full]572183[/ATTACH] I'd be more wary of the fact that someone is selling an AU/MS (hey, it just might make MS with proper conservation, can't tell from the photos provided - with plastic and contamination covering up the coin) 1871 IHC for only $250 (that's VF prices) when Numismedia FMV for an AU is over $500.  As soon as you get to XF it's a $400 coin.  That, to me, would make me take a really close look at the coin in hand to determine signs of cleaning, pitting, etc...that would Details the coin. If it's genuine, and hasn't been harshly cleaned prior to getting stapled in that holder, I'd think it was an easy buy at $200-250.  JMHO[/QUOTE]