1870 cc Seated Liberty Dollar

I don't like how the design details disappear into the fields on the obverse. Liberty's left arm and drapery appear to end and restart. May be the angle of photo and light, but looks to me like transfer die created from a worn coin.

 

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I agree with bigj. It looks sketchy.

 

I do not believe this coin is real.

 

Agreed on all points.

 

What makes me on the fence is that this is the same guy who sold a PCGS slabbed coin that showed up correctly on the verification site and it's also the guy that I purchased a one cent coin from that everyone agreed was legit and not fake.

That in no way means this one isn't counterfeit, but it's better than buying a coin from someone selling 10 fakes. Anyone can get taken though, so I'm still 50/50 with this one.

 

I took this coin and an 1871 cc to a pcgs dealer. He felt this one was likely bad, but that we should submit the 1871cc. Ughhhh... Just not sure what to do. Before speaking to him I filed a Paypal dispute. I would hate to send the 1871 back though if it were legit. It's in much better condition then this scratched up coin. Him saying that he thought we should submit it is driving me crazy with confusion now.

One negative was that the bottom of the reverse banner looked a little lighter than he would have liked to see. So he's only saying that it could be real. I'll submit pics tomorrow of the 1871 cc to get the online opinion.

 

A correct cert number in NO way is an absolute indicator of a genuine coin; just something to keep in mind. Also, I'm not sure of what the other coins you've purchased from this person, but don't assume he is legit because he has possibly sold genuine coins as well. Mix and match is a fairly common tactic, particularly when the fakes just happen to be higher dollar.

 

Agreed. He sold that one to someone else for $1500 even though PCGS listed it at $12500. I think at auction if legit it would have gotten about $9500. My biggest worry was that they were stolen.

 

I'd avoid a seller like that . But we all make mistakes , just so we learn from them .