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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Paddy54, post: 3126170, member: 19250&quot;]My reason for this post goes back to a members here purchase of an 1868 proof h 10.</p><p>His is PCGS graded as a proof which I totally disagree.see image below.</p><p>My point isn&#039;t to poke at him or his choice of purchase but to bring to light the fact that durring this time frame there were very few written records of dies or proof coinage.</p><p>There was a record of 600 proofs minted in 1868 and then the story goes on to say that the dies were used to mint mint state coins . </p><p>Durring this time the mint also did melt unsold proofs as well as to offer in some years pryor years proof coins for sale....however again nothing etched in stone as to how many were disposed of or how many were sold! [ATTACH=full]796640[/ATTACH]</p><p>This coin it is my belief that it was minted using proof dies but isn&#039;t a proof coin so to speak. </p><p>I see in the image either wear on the shield only judging from a photo image not having the coin in hand....that said the grade is incorrect! If my take is wrong then the areas in question on the coin are strike. In which case the proof die was reworked and the rubs seen on the coin were from the mint repurposing the die as I see rust pits as well as polish lines on the specimen. Which meant that for sure proof dies were put back in service to mint regular coinage.</p><p>Another fact known to support is the right ribbon isn&#039;t touching the wreath. A true die marker which proves that at least the reverse die was used from a pair of proof dies.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin in question I posted this morning has some pitting also plus again the tip of the ribbon is void of the wreath.</p><p>That said your all were correct in your guesses.....as who can be assured 100% without any providence in writing that the coin was purchased as a proof.</p><p>One other factor is that the head coiner took all proofs strikes to the mint director to hold. As well the mint director had full control of proof dies which were locked in his safe. </p><p><br /></p><p>My point again can one be sure without a doupt that a coin minted durring this time peroid are in fact a proof strike?</p><p>With the numbers so low , survival rate in decline,no written records finding a matched pair is extremely hard to do....I&#039;ve done it 1 time on a thrime that C.B.D.</p><p>had and that write up was featured.&nbsp; However most&nbsp; all [ATTACH=full]796652[/ATTACH] experts will say to you show me another...and then I can confirm.....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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