1867 Shield Nickel...your opinions

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  1. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Thinking of purchasing this coin soon and I wanted to get opinions on it for grade and if its been cleaned. 20200708_151520.jpg 20200708_151549.jpg
     
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  3. Kentucky

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    I like the coin, but as far as a cleaning, I would be as happy to learn as you. I don't see any parallel scratches, but I do see (perhaps) abnormally clean fields around devices that seem to have built up dirt.
     
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  4. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Yes...that is what concerns me also.
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Maybe Doug @GDJMSP might chime in
     
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  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I have a special affinity for that coin, I love 67 rays nickels for some reason. However, I would say cleaned or overdipped. Many of these turned black, and for some reason when you dipped them some black would stay attached to devices. I have seen tons of shield nickels look just like this over the years.

    Now, if the photos are lacking, and there is actually lustrous I could be convinced otherwise, but I have simply seen too many to not have a good expectation of what the coin is.
     
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  7. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Thank you...this helps me a great deal. So I'm thinking the $155 dollar asking price is too much.
     
  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    As always, wait for some other opinions here sir. Its a special coin. Very low mintage, but priced barely above the common Rays issue of 1866. I always allow room I could be completely wrong. :)
     
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  9. Corn Man

    Corn Man Active Member

    Looks like it has been diped in the past but Im not sure. With these old coins so much time has gone by its chances of being cleaned are to great
     
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  10. QuintupleSovereign

    QuintupleSovereign Well-Known Member

    Wouldn't do it.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It's been cleaned, that's the easy part. At this price no way would I shell out that much for it. I'd rather have a lower graded coin than one that's been cleaned.
     
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  12. Indianhead65

    Indianhead65 Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys!!! You made my decision much easier
     
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd agree, but I'd say harshly/improperly cleaned.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can easily agree with that.
     
  15. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Active Member

    I agree with the majority, cleaned. The buildup around the devices is a strong indicator of a past cleaning to me. Maybe not conclusive, but darn close. Still a nice looking example for the right price.
     
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  16. Chris11111952

    Chris11111952 Member

    Is That a possible Die crack near "AM"
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not possible. It is a die crack.
     
  18. Chris11111952

    Chris11111952 Member

    Did'nt want to appear to be an expert so I phrased it as a Question
     
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  19. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Supporter! Supporter

    It's always a little dicey when we are asked to give an opinion on a coin which we do not have "in hand" & which is further compromised by a picture through the holder. While I tend to agree with the previous comments, here is something to consider:

    What or who is the source of the coin? Where did it come from? Did the seller find it MD'ing?...has it been in his family for awhile? Is the seller a novice or someone who has experience (read: collector) with coins? Is it from a pawn shop or estate sale?...etc., etc.

    The pic, taken through a clear material (plastic film) will always be distorted to some degree (sometimes more noticeable than others), & this one (to me) looks as though there is a reflection on the reverse between 10 & 11 o'clock (& other "marks" could just be reflections). "Photographed thru" distortions can wreak havoc on an accurate analysis.

    If it is a real, problem free coin, it seems to be a very reasonable acquisition cost for this coin. But with so many questions & things to consider as to the honesty of this coin,...it does seem that you should let this one go. (But if it were me, I have disposable cash & would probably take a run at it - of course, I'm one of those who doesn't get into a tizzy about most cleaned coins - this one most likely been handled by someone who fought in the Civil War!)

    JMO :happy:
     
  20. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Looks like a Repunched Date...there are several varieties.
     
  21. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Cleaned yes, a keeper yes. No matter what I like it. Good luck and be safe
     
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