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<p>[QUOTE="kanga, post: 376989, member: 9270"]Here's my understanding.</p><p>PVC damages coins significantly.</p><p>Verdigris is damage that has already occurred.</p><p>As such, both <u>lower the value</u> of a coin.</p><p>It's just a matter of degree</p><p>- PVC = lots, if left to continue its work (hence an acetone/distilled water bath)</p><p>- Verdigris = Not as much AND ceases to continue its work if the coin is removed from contact with air and humidity.</p><p> </p><p>Look at the reverse on the 1864 Small Motto in this thread:</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=37467" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=37467" rel="nofollow">http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=37467</a></p><p> </p><p>That's verdigris. Looks dry and crusty. It can be removed but you would then see damage underneath. It's just that since it's slabbed the progression of the damage has been halted.</p><p> </p><p>PVC damage will look moist and gooey. And it won't cease just because it gets sealed.</p><p>Note that I didn't say slabbed because I don't think a TPG would slab it <u>as is</u> with PVC present.</p><p>ANACS would after being cleaned but would note the problem.</p><p>NCS would, but without a grade.</p><p> </p><p>And PVC is sneaky.</p><p>It's mostly associated with copper coins.</p><p>But it can also affect gold and silver coins.</p><p>Not the gold and silver metal, but the copper that they are alloyed with resulting in a pitted coin.</p><p> </p><p>I've got such a coin in with NCS right now.</p><p>I'm hoping it was caught early enough that NGC will slab it with no DETAILS notation.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kanga, post: 376989, member: 9270"]Here's my understanding. PVC damages coins significantly. Verdigris is damage that has already occurred. As such, both [U]lower the value[/U] of a coin. It's just a matter of degree - PVC = lots, if left to continue its work (hence an acetone/distilled water bath) - Verdigris = Not as much AND ceases to continue its work if the coin is removed from contact with air and humidity. Look at the reverse on the 1864 Small Motto in this thread: [URL]http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=37467[/URL] That's verdigris. Looks dry and crusty. It can be removed but you would then see damage underneath. It's just that since it's slabbed the progression of the damage has been halted. PVC damage will look moist and gooey. And it won't cease just because it gets sealed. Note that I didn't say slabbed because I don't think a TPG would slab it [U]as is[/U] with PVC present. ANACS would after being cleaned but would note the problem. NCS would, but without a grade. And PVC is sneaky. It's mostly associated with copper coins. But it can also affect gold and silver coins. Not the gold and silver metal, but the copper that they are alloyed with resulting in a pitted coin. I've got such a coin in with NCS right now. I'm hoping it was caught early enough that NGC will slab it with no DETAILS notation.[/QUOTE]
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