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Message:: [QUOTE="mosiah, post: 467580, member: 16314"]i've got one too i'm pretty sure the coating is just oxidation again as mentioned from having been buried. i have many copper based coins from multiple ages and countries with the same oxidation and have seen many more. the oxidation will usualy drive down the price unless there is a bigger demand for the oxidized version than the original.(usualy not the case ;-). my personal advice would be not to attempt to clean the coin at all as almost always this will lower the value. the fact that the "we" on the ribbon in the motto is not worn off as is the case in a lot of this type of coin may show that the burial saved this coin from wear it may have otherwise have gotten and therefore the decrease in value due to oxidation could be made up more so in the fact of low wear.....as long as it is not damaged by cleaning. the rule of thumb is that a patina, no matter how bad, is always better than a cleaned coin. i myself just found a '64 2 cent with rotation today and it is most definatly copper. i was wondering were you found the r1 rarity listing? r1 is the most common in the sheldon's system with the scale acending to r6 which is most rare. as i have just found my coin i would be interested in any other information you may have found since the last post and i will pass any more info i have on if i find it. good luck!:thumb:,mosiah[/QUOTE]