1864 2c - Lord Markovan's giveaway win

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by KBBPLL, Oct 14, 2024.

  1. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I'm enjoying my prize from the recent @lordmarcovan giveaway. Since that thread is locked, I thought I would post a separate one.

    New photos out of the 2x2 - muted natural light
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    Direct sun
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    When I get a new coin, I enjoy exploring it in detail. I had no clue about 2c pieces previously (and still don't). This one is the more common Large Motto type, and they minted 19,847,500 of them total. At first it seemed like it had a weak N in Cents, and I found another one like it on PCGS. But when I removed it from the 2x2, the N seems normal. The date position wasn't a match for the PCGS one either.

    Speaking of which, I was impressed with the number of different date positions for this year. There must be at least half a dozen of them. I also thought I could see a slight RPD in the 1, but now I think it's just coincidental PMD. There is a tripled date variety, but again it's a different date position.

    There are a ton of images of these on PCGS. Probably because it's the most common choice for a registry type set.

    I noted a fun die crack on the reverse from the rim through the C over to the I. I found one other on PCGS with the same crack, but in a later die state. I enjoy matching up a die pair, even if I have no clue which one it is if it's been documented. I also noted odd missing denticles in the same place on both sides and what seems like a rim cud or folded over fin. I'm thinking something was not aligned properly with the dies or the planchet.

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    This has been today's kbbpll Coin Talk.
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Great! I’m glad it was a hit. Your pictures are way better than the ones I had. Because I never removed the coin from the old 2x2 in which I acquired it, I never noticed the slight anomalies with the denticles on the upper obverse rim. Not sure what to call those?
     
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  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Very nice coin but who is Lord Markovan? Lol, darn spellcheck.
     
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  6. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I've learned to take decent photos with the iPhone but nowhere near the quality of the pros on here. It was a pain to see or image the coin in the 2x2. I like taking them out for a bit anyway, then it usually goes back in the original. I don't know what to call the denticle and rim anomalies either. I've seen similar on Barber dimes in the early 1900s, especially from New Orleans, and I read at one point that it was die misalignment. I'm thinking a vertical misalignment instead of the sideways horizontal misalignment we're more familiar with, but I only know enough about the coining process to be dangerous - i.e. one die is angled slightly and not getting a fully flush strike.
     
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