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<p>[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 2702504, member: 2100"]Patriotic cwt dies can be either the obverse or the reverse, depending upon the other die it is paired with, even if other than a "blank" side. Patriotic cwts are identified by the die pairs used to make the token. The lower die number is given first, and is considered to be the obverse. Conversely, the higher die number is given second, and is considered to be the reverse. The only exception is when a die is paired with a "blank" die (die number "0"), then the "blank" (die number "0") side is considered to be the reverse, such as for token id 40/0a.</p><p><br /></p><p>As an example of a die being considered both a reverse and an obverse, die 105 is considered the reverse with token 1/105a, but is considered the obverse with token 105/198a. With some dies, it is known if it is always an obverse or reverse, but many of them can be both.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some uniface patriotic tokens were made that way, and were not necessarily errors. If you check Fuld's Patriotic Listings, you will see a number of die pairs listed with a "0" reverse. Some of the obverse dies listed as being paired with "0" die are: 1, 25, 26, 37, 38, 40, 42, 60, 67, 72, 95, 100A, 100B, 102, 106, 113, 115, 119, 121, 125, 129, 135, 137, 138, and the list goes on.</p><p><br /></p><p>To answer Insider's question about the drum and cannon side being an obverse or reverse, the style of dies 350 thru 353 are always listed as reverses (their mating die always has a lower number). If one includes the different style of drum and cannon shown in dies 348, 349 & 349A, die 349 alone can be considered an obverse when it is paired with die 477, but is the reverse when paired with dies 116, 129, 130 & 142.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just to note a different interpretation, when I read about the request being made for a photo of the reverse side, I took it to simply mean the "other" side of the token.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cwtokenman, post: 2702504, member: 2100"]Patriotic cwt dies can be either the obverse or the reverse, depending upon the other die it is paired with, even if other than a "blank" side. Patriotic cwts are identified by the die pairs used to make the token. The lower die number is given first, and is considered to be the obverse. Conversely, the higher die number is given second, and is considered to be the reverse. The only exception is when a die is paired with a "blank" die (die number "0"), then the "blank" (die number "0") side is considered to be the reverse, such as for token id 40/0a. As an example of a die being considered both a reverse and an obverse, die 105 is considered the reverse with token 1/105a, but is considered the obverse with token 105/198a. With some dies, it is known if it is always an obverse or reverse, but many of them can be both. Some uniface patriotic tokens were made that way, and were not necessarily errors. If you check Fuld's Patriotic Listings, you will see a number of die pairs listed with a "0" reverse. Some of the obverse dies listed as being paired with "0" die are: 1, 25, 26, 37, 38, 40, 42, 60, 67, 72, 95, 100A, 100B, 102, 106, 113, 115, 119, 121, 125, 129, 135, 137, 138, and the list goes on. To answer Insider's question about the drum and cannon side being an obverse or reverse, the style of dies 350 thru 353 are always listed as reverses (their mating die always has a lower number). If one includes the different style of drum and cannon shown in dies 348, 349 & 349A, die 349 alone can be considered an obverse when it is paired with die 477, but is the reverse when paired with dies 116, 129, 130 & 142. Just to note a different interpretation, when I read about the request being made for a photo of the reverse side, I took it to simply mean the "other" side of the token.[/QUOTE]
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