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<p>[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2926981, member: 19250"] <ul> <li>Last evening C-D-B posted an 1861 silver 3 cent piece, in the less than $50 thread. it caught my eye for several reasons. First it was hammered so much detail on this little gem. There's more plenty more if I am correct....and If I'm correct this thread will allow members two things #1 see a very cool variety that is extremely rare. And #2 make them aware of other such varties exist, that may be found in other denominations .</li> <li>In 1861 the U.S. Mint minted 1000 proof three cent pieces, and 497,000 mint state coins.* proof dies were also used to strike Mint state coins!</li> <li>Orginally 1000 proof coins were struck and delivered on April 15 with the sets of proof coins. However over 600 were melted as unsold .</li> <li>The records I have state 15 obvs.& 16 Revs. Dies were used in 1861</li> <li>Large dates are counterfeit coins.</li> <li>Now the coin in question.....I believe to be either a proof strike that somehow got into circulation or what is known as an RPD -001 also known as the 1861 Proof repunched date.cross reference : Breen Proof Book #1</li> <li>Description: repunched date 1861/186</li> <li>Repunched date first 1 seen above tbe top and to the right of the</li> <li>repunched 8 seen above the middle and top of the 8.</li> <li>Repunched 6 seen above the middle of the top of the 6.</li> <li>Die markers : Heavy die clashing outline of reverse show around the star. Obv.</li> <li>Heavy die clashing outline the obverse snow inside the C</li> <li>For each of the proof repunched dates,theres is no pricing information. There's no or little premium for the die variety [ if no one knows it exist...Why would there be a premium?] No demand no premium.</li> <li>As only a limited number of proof coins were struck most should show the same variety.</li> <li>In addition the price of a proof coin is already significant.. [400 sets on record] Others destroyed due to slow or no sales.</li> <li>Other markers is to my eye is the 8 the bottom loop on the left side has a bump.</li> <li>The lll die clashes under the lines of the shield. Plainly seen to the eye .</li> <li>I'm thinking a very high R variety, how many of these have survived?</li> <li>This coin is hammered even though it been circulated it still shows plenty of details as well as clues to what it truly maybe....</li> </ul><p>Your thoughts?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]709955[/ATTACH]</p><p>Posted with Johns permission the specimen in question.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Paddy54, post: 2926981, member: 19250"][LIST] [*]Last evening C-D-B posted an 1861 silver 3 cent piece, in the less than $50 thread. it caught my eye for several reasons. First it was hammered so much detail on this little gem. There's more plenty more if I am correct....and If I'm correct this thread will allow members two things #1 see a very cool variety that is extremely rare. And #2 make them aware of other such varties exist, that may be found in other denominations . [*]In 1861 the U.S. Mint minted 1000 proof three cent pieces, and 497,000 mint state coins.* proof dies were also used to strike Mint state coins! [*]Orginally 1000 proof coins were struck and delivered on April 15 with the sets of proof coins. However over 600 were melted as unsold . [*]The records I have state 15 obvs.& 16 Revs. Dies were used in 1861 [*]Large dates are counterfeit coins. [*]Now the coin in question.....I believe to be either a proof strike that somehow got into circulation or what is known as an RPD -001 also known as the 1861 Proof repunched date.cross reference : Breen Proof Book #1 [*]Description: repunched date 1861/186 [*]Repunched date first 1 seen above tbe top and to the right of the [*]repunched 8 seen above the middle and top of the 8. [*]Repunched 6 seen above the middle of the top of the 6. [*]Die markers : Heavy die clashing outline of reverse show around the star. Obv. [*]Heavy die clashing outline the obverse snow inside the C [*]For each of the proof repunched dates,theres is no pricing information. There's no or little premium for the die variety [ if no one knows it exist...Why would there be a premium?] No demand no premium. [*]As only a limited number of proof coins were struck most should show the same variety. [*]In addition the price of a proof coin is already significant.. [400 sets on record] Others destroyed due to slow or no sales. [*]Other markers is to my eye is the 8 the bottom loop on the left side has a bump. [*]The lll die clashes under the lines of the shield. Plainly seen to the eye . [*]I'm thinking a very high R variety, how many of these have survived? [*]This coin is hammered even though it been circulated it still shows plenty of details as well as clues to what it truly maybe.... [/LIST] Your thoughts? [ATTACH=full]709955[/ATTACH] Posted with Johns permission the specimen in question.[/QUOTE]
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