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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 684241, member: 66"]Yes the uncracked die can be identified through die markers. Look for the spike coming off of the top left of the 1 that was polished off to create 5b before they paired it with the CSA rev. The spike is present on both the uncracked (5) and early cracked state (5a). Unfortunately obv 1 and 4 also have a similar spike but it is higher up on obv 5 roughly at the same level as the top of the 1. The date also slopes up to the right more steeply than on any other obv.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes the 5b state was first paired with the CSA rev and then later re-mated with rev E.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In Jan 1861 the New Orleans Mint began the year striking coin for the Union. Some 330,000 half dollars were struck but only about 54,000 of them were dated 1861. The rest were dated 1860. The 1860 dies were destroyed some time between Jan 26 and Jan 31st. </p><p><br /></p><p>On Jan 31st the New Orleans Mint was taken over by the State of Louisiana. A further 1,184,912 half dollars were struck by the State between Jan 31st and April.</p><p><br /></p><p>Around April 1st the CSA took over the New Orleans Mint from the State of LA. Production of half dollars continuned under the CSA. (Why? Because the country needed coinage.) In early April four pattern CSA half dollars were struck using the 5b state obv. Why? Probably because it was already in the press. After the patterns were struck the E rev was returned to the press and coinage continued. On April 30th coinage ceased because of a lack of bullion. From April 1 to April 30 the CSA struck 1,018,000 coins with the US dies. On May 18th the US half dollar dies were defaced. The mint formally closed on May 31st 1861.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Larry Briggs did not write a book on Seate halves, it was seated quarters. The book coinman was thinking of was the Wiley-Bugert book The Complete Guide to Liberty Seated Half Dollars. This book is long out of print and very difficult to find a copy of. Fortunately it IS available on-line for FREE!!</p><p><a href="http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index.php/reference-books/the-complete-guide-to-liberty-seated-half-dollars/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index.php/reference-books/the-complete-guide-to-liberty-seated-half-dollars/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index.php/reference-books/the-complete-guide-to-liberty-seated-half-dollars/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Even better more up to date information can be found in the Gobrecht Journal issues #94 and #97. Unfortunately these may be rather hard to come by. Talk to me about them privately.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 684241, member: 66"]Yes the uncracked die can be identified through die markers. Look for the spike coming off of the top left of the 1 that was polished off to create 5b before they paired it with the CSA rev. The spike is present on both the uncracked (5) and early cracked state (5a). Unfortunately obv 1 and 4 also have a similar spike but it is higher up on obv 5 roughly at the same level as the top of the 1. The date also slopes up to the right more steeply than on any other obv. Yes the 5b state was first paired with the CSA rev and then later re-mated with rev E. In Jan 1861 the New Orleans Mint began the year striking coin for the Union. Some 330,000 half dollars were struck but only about 54,000 of them were dated 1861. The rest were dated 1860. The 1860 dies were destroyed some time between Jan 26 and Jan 31st. On Jan 31st the New Orleans Mint was taken over by the State of Louisiana. A further 1,184,912 half dollars were struck by the State between Jan 31st and April. Around April 1st the CSA took over the New Orleans Mint from the State of LA. Production of half dollars continuned under the CSA. (Why? Because the country needed coinage.) In early April four pattern CSA half dollars were struck using the 5b state obv. Why? Probably because it was already in the press. After the patterns were struck the E rev was returned to the press and coinage continued. On April 30th coinage ceased because of a lack of bullion. From April 1 to April 30 the CSA struck 1,018,000 coins with the US dies. On May 18th the US half dollar dies were defaced. The mint formally closed on May 31st 1861. Larry Briggs did not write a book on Seate halves, it was seated quarters. The book coinman was thinking of was the Wiley-Bugert book The Complete Guide to Liberty Seated Half Dollars. This book is long out of print and very difficult to find a copy of. Fortunately it IS available on-line for FREE!! [url]http://www.stellacoinnews.com/index.php/reference-books/the-complete-guide-to-liberty-seated-half-dollars/[/url] Even better more up to date information can be found in the Gobrecht Journal issues #94 and #97. Unfortunately these may be rather hard to come by. Talk to me about them privately.[/QUOTE]
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