1859 Canadian Brass Cent?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Obone, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. Obone

    Obone Member

    Hi,
    After going through my collection of 1859 large crnts, I noticed that one coin had a considerally less dark color, so could these be one of those brass cents?
    I have attached photos of it besides a normal large cent.
    Thanks in advance,
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    looks like it was gold plated ??? wait for other opinions...
     
  4. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I've never seen a "brass" cent with that wide a vine break at 7 or with one at 14. I think that it has just been cleaned with any number of under-the-sink household cleaners that turns them that color. Send it to spp and he can zap it to tell you, but think that it's bronze all the way.
     
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  5. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The brass and bronze cents usually can't be differentiated by color alone. You need to go by markers, like what Bill mentioned, or a metallurgical analysis.
     
  6. Obone

    Obone Member

    Hi,
    Thanks for all the replies, and advice for next course of action?
    Thanks
     
  7. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    obviously cleaned with brasso brass cleaner.
     
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  8. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    I think they sell darkeners. wait for opinions on that...
     
  9. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky Supporter

    1859 darn it... to bad they cleaned it. probably a person thinking a shiny coin is worth more money. NOT!!!:banghead::rage:
     
  10. yartiques

    yartiques Member

    What do you mean by "SPP"?
     
  11. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    SPP is Sherwood Park Pennies, a geologist that works in Ottawa. He has access to an XRF machine that will give the metallic alloy %'s down to the nth degree. He is one of the moderators on the "Coin Community Forums", a good site for all numismatics, but has separate sections for Canadian coins, varieties, errors, grading, etc. Here is what a search for "brass 1859" got me:
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/search.asp?mode=DoIt

    Whoops, I guess the link doesn't go back to the search that I put in. You'll have to enter your own search, but here's a link to one of the forums:
    https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=139
     
  12. yartiques

    yartiques Member

    Thank you so much Bill in Burl. Very helpful.
     
  13. Obone

    Obone Member

    Hi,
    I tried getting it graded by ICCS, it is bronze just with weird toning.
    Thanks for all the replies!
     
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