1858 error

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  1. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    Look at the first picture close.
     
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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Sorry, as everyone said, this one isn't a variety.
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I see what you are looking at but it's the wrong size and shape to be a seven.
    It's a cool coin but I still feel it's MD.
     
  5. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Denial isn't just a river in Africa.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Play nice.
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    You're right. Sorry.
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You're seeing what you want to see, and not what is there. Everyone who has posted in this thread has done so only to help you. The coin is not what you hoped it was, and I've little doubt that most of us have been in your shoes at one time or another; it happens, so try to take what you can from this and learn from the experience.
     
  9. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    Hello all let me start by saying I appreciate everyone's input. I am not an expert in any means I am just a common collector. I have researched allot on these kind of errors before I ever posted anything on this site. I am well aware of all the points that have been stated. I even have mechanical error coins. What frustrates me is I can see this coin in a larger format on my computer that everyone else can not see because no one can enlarge the pictures. If anyone would like to see better pictures please tell me your e-mail where I can send the pictures to you so you to can enlarge them to get a better view. I am also aware that finding something rare is also a shot in the dark however that being said the first error 1858/7 coin had to be found and verified before anyone would believe. Just don't dismiss this because it could be something then again it might not. I would still like to hear more - good or bad because everyone has great input.

    Thanks
    Chris
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    First, the photos you provided are fine and can be enlarged, so offering to email others are not going to make any difference as we can clearly see what you're talking about. However, and just to be sure, I again looked at each of the photos, but the reality of the coin has not changed; it is still not a doubled die or an overdate.

    I realize that for each newly found variety, there must be a discovery piece, but the coin must be an actual variety to be a discovery piece. It is not that we do not trust you, but we must believe our own eyes. If you truly believe you have something, and will only accept opinions that are the same as yours, there is little we can do to help you, sir. At this point, the best thing you can do is to send the coin to someone, but please, and I say this will all due respect, do not be surprised or upset when they tell you the same thing that we have.

    I wish the best of luck to you.


    P.S. You may want to delete your email before the mods do it for you.
     
  11. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    I thank you for your input. I am not disappointed in any way shape or form. This coin is not going to make me or break me. I just wanted to see what kind of answers I would get. You seem to know what you are talking about and I appreciate your honesty. Thanks again.
     
  12. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    This is for BooksB4Coins Just let me know what you see here. Look at the 1858/7 on this page then give me your thoughts.
    http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=91267

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    [​IMG] I've always checked for the rim cud, because it's easy to be fooled by dirt in the 8.
    There is a small cent overdate that is even subtler than the 1888/7, the 1858/7:

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    It must have taken considerable study to first identify that as an 8/7.
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    If someone new came along and posted that, we'd tell them it was a figment of their imagination. [​IMG]
     
  13. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    NO MORE COMMENTS
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    all shown are mechanical doubling
     
  15. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I posted the coin on the Fly-In forum. Maybe someone there will see something. One post there thought the one in the date might be repunched. It's possible Rick Snow will see the post and comment.
     
  16. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    Thank You Larry I also sent the picturs off still waiting to hear back.
     
  17. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    I just got word back from a coin dealer and he sees the 8 over the 7 stamped. He is sending the pictures to Larry Snow to see what his thoughts are.
     
  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    A dealer should know that dates are punched, not stamped...regardless, I am still just seeing MD. Hopefully you get an answer from Rick Snow soon.
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Who is this dealer? I do hope you understand that "dealer" is in no way synonymous with "expert", so claiming that some nameless dealer sees this means nothing. With that said, Rick Snow is the man to talk to, so I do hope that he gives his professional opinion on this, but more importantly, I hope you will accept it.

    In response to post #31, I assume you're trying to show me a photo of FS-301 from a thread that has nothing to do with your coin. As has already been mentioned, FS-301 (and 302 for that matter) is a LARGE LETTERS variety, while yours is small letters, so I am unsure of the point you're trying to make.

    I am not sure why you posted this, but this thread is not solely for you. It is here for the education and enjoyment of all members, so if someone wishes to chime in, they have every right to do so.
     
  20. silver bce

    silver bce Member

    BooksB4Coins
    This comment was not intended for you or to be mean in any way. I was stating I want more whether it be good or bad. I am not going to get upset with anything that anyone has to say. The post under yours was however intended for you so I could get your feedback. If you take anything I say out of context then sorry. This is the last time I will apologies. I enjoy your knowledge so please keep it coming.

    P.S. Thanks Everyone for there thoughts.
     
  21. chip

    chip Novice collector

    Is the OP's coin an example of Longacre Doubling?
     
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