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Message:: [QUOTE="ExoMan, post: 7284718, member: 72588"]This c/s was a good find. Knowledge typically adds appreciation and value to artifacts. As regards these RUDOLPH c/s's their value is perceived by what I regard as a likely misattribution and catalog listings. I want PROOF that this c/s is from the California guy! One man's junk can be another's treasure .... The true history of the RUDOLPH counterstamps has yet to be solved and related. Once again, I would be most pleased if those who know the history of this c/s would share and discuss same.  [ATTACH=full]1275768[/ATTACH] As you can see, above, NGC is slabbing these and claiming they're dated (1861). Only one, the latest listed date, of these c/s's is 1861. All others appear on coins from the 1850's. In effect, NGC has not only bought into the unproven attribution of these so-called "California c/s's" but is labeling them to appear that they're Civil War pieces! IMHO, this is a big disservice to collectors. Since I own 11 pieces, I would LOVE these to be truly accepted as CW tokens from California! Unless the TRUE issuer of this c/s was only in business during the CW years, the only one that is logically a CW issue is the one dated 1861. Both J.F. & C.F. Rudolph were in business prior to the Civil War. Circumstantial attributions of counterstamps can be intriguing, but they're ultimately meaningless without PROOF positive. It should be noted that both Rulau and Brunk had to change a number of their early listings as later facts proved the listings wrong. Both authors were much dependent upon many contributors who did faulty and sometimes prejudicial research. It's a sad state of affairs when ignorance, politics and greed rule the day in this wonderful hobby we share.[/QUOTE]

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