1855 Large Cent variety question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mark Metzger, May 27, 2017.

  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    just landed an 1855 large cent and was curious about any specific variety it might be. I did a bit of digging and saw there were many varieties, but couldn't find a list of characteristics. Any thoughts on grade would be appreciated as well.
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    Last edited: May 27, 2017
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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    XF/AU details for grade
     
  4. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Can you elaborate on the details grade? Cleaned?
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Yup. Cleaned. The orange and multicolor surfaces give it away.

    And your coin is an N-5. (Having a PDF of Newcomb's book is very helpful. :shame:)

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  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  7. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    How damning is a cleaning on a coin such as this?
     
  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Decrease in value by about half.
     
  9. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    So this coin wouldn't demonstrate characteristics of a cleaning?
    Just trying to get my ducks in a row...
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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    No, but it does have a bunch of scratches on the reverse.
     
  11. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Of course, just concerned about cleaning at this point.
     
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Ah, okay. Your second coin shows exactly what original copper should look like.
     
  13. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Cool. Thanks. On the second coin, I think it would grade at VF35/XF40 without the ding at 12:00. How much might that detract?
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    With old copper, color will tell you a lot. When you see warm colors in circulated large cents, there is a great chance the coin was messed with at some point in it's past.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I'm coming up with N-4. Edge of the left foot of the 1 over the dentical doesn't match N-5 but does match N-4.
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I normally do not disagree with Condor. It could be an illusion with the smooshed denticles, or the seller may have misattributed these coins, but the alignment of the 1 more closely matches the N-5.


    N-4. I see the left base of the 1 over the middle of the dentil. I do not see the lumps on the OP's coin.

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    N-5. I see the left base of the 1 over the space between the dentils.

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    OP coin. The left base of the 1 is in between two dentils.

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  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Also, the center of the 8 is directly over a denticle on the N-4. Not so on the OP coin (at least as far as I can tell).
     
  18. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    The 5 on the OP's coin (that's me) looks like the mint was playing pin the tail on the donkey.
     
  19. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    So let's play the "did he pay too much?" game.
    Coin One 1855: $32

    Coin Two 1848: $26
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  20. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Bump for thoughts on value vs. purchase price. See above...
    Thanks!
     
  21. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Coins arrived today. Will probably resell the toned/cleaned one (properly advertised as such, of course). How much impact on condition does the circular hit on the '48 have?
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