1854 largecent for attribution

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  1. jerryc39

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  3. Jeffjay

    Jeffjay Well-Known Member

    Don't have enough information for attributing large cents but $44 for this large cent was a great deal.
     
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  4. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    surprised not one person took a crack at attributing this one. Got to be some large cent guys on here.
     
  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Be patient it will happen. Good luck.
     
  6. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Doesn't surprise me considering the amount of time it takes me to ID the variety of some of the large cents.
    I know there are several collectors in here who are MUCH more experienced and could do a faster and more accurate IDing than I.

    I've got two large cent references but that's like having two clocks.
    With one clock you always know the time.
    With two clocks you are never quite sure.

    Plus I've never tried to do variety identification on Braided Hair large cents.
    I'm still very shaky working with the Matron Heads.

    BOTTON LINE: IF it's an N-30 it's the key coin of the 1854 Large Cents.
    It's an R-7.
     
  7. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Instead of putting up a link why not post some large photos of each side on your thread?
     
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  8. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    because the link gives you zoom in ability. If I try to save the images it didn't work that way. Don't have the coin in hand
     
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  10. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    best I can do
     
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  12. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    not R-7 anymore. 2 for sale on e-bay now and listed as R-5+
     
  13. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Ah ha!
    I got the R-7 rating from Noyes' book.
    Then I looked at Grellman's book and he had it at R-5+.
    So it looks like Grellman was the source.

    See, what did I say about having two watches :rolleyes:
     
  14. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    I don't think this is the N-30. The obverse seems to be correct but the reverse is subtly different. Here are pics of a TPG graded example of a N-30 from Heritage Auctions . Check out the letters in AMERICA. N-30, Low R.6,.jpg N-30, Low R.6,rev.jpg
     
  15. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    I don't see the difference in the letters. Both coins seem to have the 2 lines connecting the leaf on lower right to the wreath. That was my tell on the reverse. Sent the coin to Grellman to verify. We shall see.
     
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  16. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    My Newcomb book only goes to N-25. He always mentions when a die is used on more than one variety which would be useful here. My concern was that that the bases of ICA in AMERICA are all connected in the photos of the N-30. Check out the N-21. The faint RPD could have been polished away if the die saw extended use. I'm just playing the devils advocate here and I wouldn't place a bet on any of the three varieties with the same date placement. Definitely let us know what Grellman says.
     
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  17. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    Grellman e-mailed me and told me it was N-21. Bummer
     
  18. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    The later date Large Cents have so many die pairings that it makes attribution very difficult. I've been interested in this for a few years now and get it wrong often but usually I can narrow it down to a couple choices. You are right, that is a bummer, in XF that would be a $500 cherry pick.
     
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  19. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    it was worth a shot.
     
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