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<p>[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 2261338, member: 19165"]No. There will always be a weak spot opposite a large cud like this. A cud is formed when a piece of the die is broken and/or missing. The pressure to bring up the strike is formed by the compression of the planchet between the two dies. If part of one of the dies is missing, there will be no corresponding backing to create the pressure - and the design won't strike up properly.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In the broadest use of the term, it is a mint error in that there was an error with the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, they are more appropriately considered a die state. Because we are talking about a die issue, this will fall under the category of a "variety." The best way to think about the difference is that an error will only occur to one coin- its basically a fluke. A variety will be present on all examples struck by that die (the same die strikes the first and last coin - the same RPM, DDO, etc., will be present on all coins struck). Die states track the changes of a die over its life (you can have multiple die states of the same variety). If you could gather all coins struck by this die, you would first see a perfect die, and then a crack would start to grow, and then the crack would get bigger. Later, a piece of the die might start to completely separate, until it finally falls off (and you are left with this cud). Each of these changes would be a different die state (and extreme collectors of well studied varieties will try to get one of each die state - especially for early federal coinage).</p><p><br /></p><p>In summary - the variety would apply to all coins struck by that die. The die state applies to this end of life condition where the cud has developed.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="physics-fan3.14, post: 2261338, member: 19165"]No. There will always be a weak spot opposite a large cud like this. A cud is formed when a piece of the die is broken and/or missing. The pressure to bring up the strike is formed by the compression of the planchet between the two dies. If part of one of the dies is missing, there will be no corresponding backing to create the pressure - and the design won't strike up properly. In the broadest use of the term, it is a mint error in that there was an error with the die. However, they are more appropriately considered a die state. Because we are talking about a die issue, this will fall under the category of a "variety." The best way to think about the difference is that an error will only occur to one coin- its basically a fluke. A variety will be present on all examples struck by that die (the same die strikes the first and last coin - the same RPM, DDO, etc., will be present on all coins struck). Die states track the changes of a die over its life (you can have multiple die states of the same variety). If you could gather all coins struck by this die, you would first see a perfect die, and then a crack would start to grow, and then the crack would get bigger. Later, a piece of the die might start to completely separate, until it finally falls off (and you are left with this cud). Each of these changes would be a different die state (and extreme collectors of well studied varieties will try to get one of each die state - especially for early federal coinage). In summary - the variety would apply to all coins struck by that die. The die state applies to this end of life condition where the cud has developed.[/QUOTE]
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