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<p>[QUOTE="John Underhill, post: 7885253, member: 124097"]Wow! Thank you all for so many quick replies! </p><p><br /></p><p>SO... It seems as likely as any other explanation that perhaps my Grammie had a secret life as a skilled forger! (I think I love her even more now!).</p><p><br /></p><p>I know these coins have been buried in the junk in my dad's attic for at least 50 years that I know of, so a modern forgery seems unlikely. The "tampered-with 1858" theory seems like it's got to be the answer. Which leaves me wondering, as Lordmarkovan asked above... why? It doesn't look scratched off as a prank. To the naked eye it looks really good, even under the loupe it looks pretty good to me. So who would have enough skill to alter it fairly convincingly yet be such a dim-bulb that they'd create something that not only isn't rare and valuable, but that never even existed? Seems like a waste of a perfectly nice coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>When seen in-person it does look like the copper must have been manipulated beyond just removing material. I can certainly see how erasing the left half of an eight would make it into a three but there seems to be much more "meat" on the three than there is on the number eight. Especially where the top and bottom curves join. That is to say at the "waistline" of the 8. The right-hand "arms" of the three, and the vertical line in the center of the three, where that 8's waistline would have been cut, is much wider than that same area is on the eight. Seems like material would have needed to be added there to get the 3 to be that shape. </p><p><br /></p><p>It's a good mystery...</p><p><br /></p><p>I'll try to get a look (and hopefully a photo) with better magnification later today. Will update then.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you all again!</p><p>John[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Underhill, post: 7885253, member: 124097"]Wow! Thank you all for so many quick replies! SO... It seems as likely as any other explanation that perhaps my Grammie had a secret life as a skilled forger! (I think I love her even more now!). I know these coins have been buried in the junk in my dad's attic for at least 50 years that I know of, so a modern forgery seems unlikely. The "tampered-with 1858" theory seems like it's got to be the answer. Which leaves me wondering, as Lordmarkovan asked above... why? It doesn't look scratched off as a prank. To the naked eye it looks really good, even under the loupe it looks pretty good to me. So who would have enough skill to alter it fairly convincingly yet be such a dim-bulb that they'd create something that not only isn't rare and valuable, but that never even existed? Seems like a waste of a perfectly nice coin. When seen in-person it does look like the copper must have been manipulated beyond just removing material. I can certainly see how erasing the left half of an eight would make it into a three but there seems to be much more "meat" on the three than there is on the number eight. Especially where the top and bottom curves join. That is to say at the "waistline" of the 8. The right-hand "arms" of the three, and the vertical line in the center of the three, where that 8's waistline would have been cut, is much wider than that same area is on the eight. Seems like material would have needed to be added there to get the 3 to be that shape. It's a good mystery... I'll try to get a look (and hopefully a photo) with better magnification later today. Will update then. Thank you all again! John[/QUOTE]
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