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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1809707, member: 112"]Geoff I don't know what to tell ya. I've written out the exact same info about other coins probably a hundred times. That info will always prove valid. Problem is, the TPGs don't always get it right. You see, the TPGs will accept and grade coins with light wear as MS more often than not. They didn't use to be that way, but in today's world they sure are. They use the excuse that maybe, just maybe, that light wear could have been caused by roll friction, or flip friction, or album friction, or even bag friction. But they forget all about the fact that the light wear could also have been caused by honest to God wear from circulation or from some dealer or collector sliding the coin around on his table or counter top. But the problem with that methodology is that there is no way in the world to tell one type of wear from another, it cannot be done.</p><p><br /></p><p>But it makes their customers a lot happier when they say - oh this light wear could have been caused by this or that so this coin is still MS. Well, I say horse puckey ! Wear is wear and I don't care how it got there, the only things that really matters is that it <b>IS</b> there ! And that's how the grading standards used to be, and how they should <u>still</u> be.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, most of the time when I write out an explanation of how I graded a coin like that my grade is going to be lower than the grade assigned by the TPG. And when my grade is lower than the TPGs a lot of folks discount whatever I had to say and ignore it because how can I be right when the TPGs say otherwise ? </p><p><br /></p><p>This particular coin is a good example. The reason it is a good example is because the very same info I typed out in that analysis will prove that a coin is really AU or really MS, regardless of what the TPGs say. </p><p><br /></p><p>But folks will only believe what they want to believe. And most of the time they want to believe to believe that a coin is better than it really is. Even when it's not their coin ! </p><p><br /></p><p>But me, I believe what my eyes actually show me, not what I want to see <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>But if you got a coin and it want it analyzed, post some good pictures and yeah I'll do it. Just be ready to hear the honest truth, and realize it may not be what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1809707, member: 112"]Geoff I don't know what to tell ya. I've written out the exact same info about other coins probably a hundred times. That info will always prove valid. Problem is, the TPGs don't always get it right. You see, the TPGs will accept and grade coins with light wear as MS more often than not. They didn't use to be that way, but in today's world they sure are. They use the excuse that maybe, just maybe, that light wear could have been caused by roll friction, or flip friction, or album friction, or even bag friction. But they forget all about the fact that the light wear could also have been caused by honest to God wear from circulation or from some dealer or collector sliding the coin around on his table or counter top. But the problem with that methodology is that there is no way in the world to tell one type of wear from another, it cannot be done. But it makes their customers a lot happier when they say - oh this light wear could have been caused by this or that so this coin is still MS. Well, I say horse puckey ! Wear is wear and I don't care how it got there, the only things that really matters is that it [B]IS[/B] there ! And that's how the grading standards used to be, and how they should [U]still[/U] be. So, most of the time when I write out an explanation of how I graded a coin like that my grade is going to be lower than the grade assigned by the TPG. And when my grade is lower than the TPGs a lot of folks discount whatever I had to say and ignore it because how can I be right when the TPGs say otherwise ? This particular coin is a good example. The reason it is a good example is because the very same info I typed out in that analysis will prove that a coin is really AU or really MS, regardless of what the TPGs say. But folks will only believe what they want to believe. And most of the time they want to believe to believe that a coin is better than it really is. Even when it's not their coin ! But me, I believe what my eyes actually show me, not what I want to see ;) But if you got a coin and it want it analyzed, post some good pictures and yeah I'll do it. Just be ready to hear the honest truth, and realize it may not be what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]
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