1849 California Gold Piece... 6k... Actual gold counterfit or token?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Cascade, May 2, 2016.

  1. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    So, this was in a collection I inherited last year and I threw it in my black cabinet as at first glance I thought fake although I'm not too familiar with cali gold. Well, a buddy recently bought a $600 pm tester (it has a pen that squirts a small amount of an inert fluid on the metal and the pen reads a signal and the machine tells you the karat if it's real) and let me barrow it to play around with. Turns out my cali gold piece tests at 6k-7k yellow gold. So, I still think it's a fake correct?

    Or is it a contemporary counterfit?

    Or, since no denomination, I think I remember a thread about cali gold tokens made of real gold if memory serves so if it is, is this a token that's cataloged?

    Anyway, curious what you guys think. Especially the cali gold or cali gold token experts (if we have any here) Thanks :)

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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Real California Gold always has a denomination on it . Also if it has a Bear on it it's a fake or copy to be sold to the tourist trade . Your piece was made for the tourist trade also at a time when they still had some gold . The last pieces were just plated . It does have some worth but nothing like compared to the ones that actually circulated as coins in the area .
     
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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Ok so it is one of those tokens made of real gold. Any idea of value guys? I'm guessing $50 or less? And any idea of when it was produced?
     
  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I really don't know the cost . there's a good page on these but I'm having a problem finding it . Hopefully someone else will and your worth seems about right .
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The tester was likely just thrown off by the gold plating. It's clear from pics that this token is gilded/plated.
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

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  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Yeah, that look is what made me dismiss it initially. That tester has been spot on but I haven't tried anything plated yet
     
  10. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Guess you could try it on some known gold plate . Then as I understand it all goldplate isn't created equal . Some might have a thin wash of 10K while others might have a nice deep plate of .010+ inches of plate .
     
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