1846 large cent with over-date

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by orionisopen, Nov 8, 2019.

  1. orionisopen

    orionisopen New Member

    I noticed this over-date error on a punch-holed 1846 large cent that was in a roll I bought. Obviously with the hole it's a cull, but I was just wondering if anyone has seen this error on an 1846 before. It's not in the Cherrypicker's Guide, at least not with 3 of the numbers in the date being over-dated. Any idea if it would be worth more than just a couple bucks as a cull?
     

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  3. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Welcome to C.T.
    I think this would be a variety, not an error.
    Some more knowledgeable assistance should be along soon.
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There is no over date for the 1846. However, the 1846 has a small date, a medium date and a tall date. Your coin has been damaged in the date area as evident on the six. I believe this is the very common small date but it is difficult to tell because the six is the identifying factor. I see what you're talking about in the four but that would just make it a variety.
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Variety...….Error......big deal! We don't have a Variety forum.

    Maybe @Peter T Davis should have the Error forum changed to Errors & Varieties.

    Chris
     
  6. orionisopen

    orionisopen New Member

    I'm still fairly new to collecting and haven't really dealt much with large cents until now, so I'm not familiar with their varieties. I always thought varieties were just differences in stylization rather than things like re-punched dates. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  7. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Basic Rule of thumb
    A variety originates from the die manufacturing process. Therefore the variation exists in the die and is transferred to and consistent on every coin struck by that specific die.
    An error originates from the coin manufacturing process. Therefore is not transferred from the die and consistent.
     
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  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Not an overdate, a repunched date (overdate is one date over a different date) There are 25 varieties in 1846, several of them show repunched dates. This one is N-4 an R-1 variety (over 1500 estimate to exist)
     
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  9. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Derp, derp, derp!

    A roll of large cents?
     
  10. orionisopen

    orionisopen New Member

    Thanks for the reference. I was thinking it was an over date because the number lines under the 8 and 6 appear to be of different numbers, at least the line from the 8 does because it's not part of a loop or circle, but looks like it might be the tail of a backwards 6 or something else. Also, the underlying 4 appears to be backwards. How does that even happen? Looks like the die setter was drunk or couldn't see well. lol
     
  11. orionisopen

    orionisopen New Member

    Yeah, somebody was selling one on Etsy, so I thought "eh, what the hell" and bought it just to see what was in it. Mostly culls, of course. At least I haggled him down to about half of what he was asking for it.
     
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  12. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    The correct terminology should be known, and used, regardless of your opinion, or the forum it's on.
    It's helping a new member, and others, learn, and was "on topic". :rolleyes:
     
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  14. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah, the correct terminology should be used. It's strange, though, that I never see you correcting anyone when they say double die. Why is that?

    Chris
     
  15. Lawtoad

    Lawtoad Well-Known Member

    If you are interested in old coppers like large cents and half cents one or two good reference books are a must. As Conder101 noted there are 25 varieties of this date. Very cool coin even if it is a "cull".
     
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