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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jmon, post: 8741438, member: 19422&quot;]I have to say I&#039;m a little torn on this one. On one hand that obverse die chip has me concerned. It does match the later pic and I couldn&#039;t recall any reference to it previously (though such a chip could exist without being noted by Newcomb or Grellman). On the other hand, if this is a China counterfeit they went to some pretty distant lengths to get it this good. The date appears to be placed correctly (based on the 1 and the 8) for either a N-6 or N-16, which frankly is pretty difficult to do. Almost all of the late date counterfeits I have seen can be spotted with the 1 &amp; 8. Assuming it is/was legitimate, and since I didn&#039;t see any signs of repunching under the 1 I was leaning towards N-16. But, without the coin in hand, it&#039;s very difficult for me to feel certain on a variety on these late dates. All too often you really need to find some of the die scratches IMO and that can rarely be done from photographs. That said, the other concerning bit for me is the 8 &amp; 4 - they are too close from everything I have seen. I pulled out the couple of 43&#039;s I have and neither have the 8 &amp; 4 that close. In the end, I wouldn&#039;t buy this coin from a picture... In hand I might change my mind if I could match die scratches, but I don&#039;t think that would happen. Actually, for $4, I would but largely just to study and to keep someone else from buying it. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding the later picture that has the same obverse die chip. Again, the date is placed quite well. The dentils are mushy (way too mushy too) but if you look at the placement of the 1 in relation to the dentils, specifically the vertical alignment, you see the date was placed in a different location. The 8 too is off. On the 1 placement this coin leans more towards N-5; however, the alignment of the curl to the 8 does not match N-5. It would align more towards 6 or 16. The last thing I noticed about both coins was the shape of the bust above 1. Both coins appear to have a flat surface that does not belong. </p><p><br /></p><p>The last thing I&#039;ll add - I buy quite a few large cents from fleabay (though rarely late dates). Any coin I buy from fleabay is quickly checked and in the case of large cents I quickly pull out my books. If I can&#039;t match it to a known die variety then I would demand a refund. So far I haven&#039;t had to do that, but... most of the time I am able to determine before I bid in the first place.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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