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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 412046, member: 66"]Here is a quick attribution guide for 1834 that I published on another forum.</p><p><br /></p><p>Fortunately there are only 7 varieties and only two of them are rare.</p><p><br /></p><p>This year comes with:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>small date</b> (8 the same size as the 3 and top of 8 lower than top of 1) N-1 N-2, </p><p><b>large date</b> (8 slightly larger than 3 and higher than the top of the 1.) N-3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.</p><p><br /></p><p>I would just ignore the size of the reverse letters they aren't important and all of the varieties can easily be attributed without bothering to consider the letter sizes. (Frankly you can ignore the size of the stars as well. If it is a small 8 they are small stars. If it is a large 8, if the 6th star is left of the point of the coronet they are small stars, if they are right of the point they are large stars.)</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Small dates</b></p><p><br /></p><p> N-1 two points of leaves below the last A in AMERICA</p><p><br /></p><p> N-2 one leaf point below center of A</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Large dates</b></p><p><br /></p><p> Small stars <b>star 6 to the left of the point of the Coronet</b> N-3, 4</p><p><br /></p><p> N-3 berry below center of upright of first T in STATES.</p><p><br /></p><p> N-4 berry below left edge of left foot of T</p><p><br /></p><p> Large Stars <b>star 6 to right of point of Coronet</b> N-5, 6, and 7</p><p><br /></p><p> N-5 small letters in legend, <b>point of leaf below left serif of second S in STATES</b>. R-5 Highly desirable.</p><p><br /></p><p> N-6 Large letters <b>point of leaf right of center of last S of STATES.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Now here is the problem N-7. This is a proof only variety with only about 8 specimens known.</p><p><br /></p><p>It has the large date and large stars. On the obverse the left edge of the curl is just to the right of the center of the 3. (on 5 and 6 it is over the left edge of the 4) On the reverse <b>the point of the leaf is below the right edge of the second S in STATES.</b> (One of these was cherrypicked about 10 years ago in VG condition.)</p><p><br /></p><p>If you have any questions let me know.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The first coin in the thread is definitely a N-5 R-5 Congratulations the 34 N-5 is a tough R-5 and often comes low grade and/or damaged.</p><p>The second is an N-2</p><p>The third is also an N-2 but with MDD on the profile. Newcomb gave them separate variety listings (the 1/2's) but they are not different varieties and they are not doubled dies</p><p><br /></p><p>The N-7 is definitely the key and it is still an R-7 not an R-6. Like I said only 8 known specimens. (And I have seen five of them, been able to handle three.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 412046, member: 66"]Here is a quick attribution guide for 1834 that I published on another forum. Fortunately there are only 7 varieties and only two of them are rare. This year comes with: [B]small date[/B] (8 the same size as the 3 and top of 8 lower than top of 1) N-1 N-2, [B]large date[/B] (8 slightly larger than 3 and higher than the top of the 1.) N-3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. I would just ignore the size of the reverse letters they aren't important and all of the varieties can easily be attributed without bothering to consider the letter sizes. (Frankly you can ignore the size of the stars as well. If it is a small 8 they are small stars. If it is a large 8, if the 6th star is left of the point of the coronet they are small stars, if they are right of the point they are large stars.) [B]Small dates[/B] N-1 two points of leaves below the last A in AMERICA N-2 one leaf point below center of A [B]Large dates[/B] Small stars [B]star 6 to the left of the point of the Coronet[/B] N-3, 4 N-3 berry below center of upright of first T in STATES. N-4 berry below left edge of left foot of T Large Stars [B]star 6 to right of point of Coronet[/B] N-5, 6, and 7 N-5 small letters in legend, [B]point of leaf below left serif of second S in STATES[/B]. R-5 Highly desirable. N-6 Large letters [B]point of leaf right of center of last S of STATES.[/B] Now here is the problem N-7. This is a proof only variety with only about 8 specimens known. It has the large date and large stars. On the obverse the left edge of the curl is just to the right of the center of the 3. (on 5 and 6 it is over the left edge of the 4) On the reverse [B]the point of the leaf is below the right edge of the second S in STATES.[/B] (One of these was cherrypicked about 10 years ago in VG condition.) If you have any questions let me know. The first coin in the thread is definitely a N-5 R-5 Congratulations the 34 N-5 is a tough R-5 and often comes low grade and/or damaged. The second is an N-2 The third is also an N-2 but with MDD on the profile. Newcomb gave them separate variety listings (the 1/2's) but they are not different varieties and they are not doubled dies The N-7 is definitely the key and it is still an R-7 not an R-6. Like I said only 8 known specimens. (And I have seen five of them, been able to handle three.)[/QUOTE]
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