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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;p91, post: 1652653, member: 6174&quot;]Thanks a lot for the link beef! I have bookmarked it.</p><p><br /></p><p>I just received a message through a friend from John Wright (he has corresponded with him before to confirm rarities) :</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">Below comments by John Wright</font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">Here&#039;s my assessment for you to pass back to your eBay friend. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial"> 1) First, this is not a &quot;Die Break Cud&quot;, but it definitely IS an &quot;Error&quot;. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; A cud is a chunk broken away from the die and has no design </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; in the &#039;cud&#039; area.&nbsp; Compare your picture (first attached picture) </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; with the second attached picture (a cud). </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial"> 2) On the reverse of your coin you can clearly see part of an off-center </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; wreath (bottom right) that has been overlaid with the normal strike. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; This planchet was first struck far off-center, either as a normal </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; strike or as a brockage.&nbsp; I lean toward the latter because even </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; though there is no design from the first strike on the obverse of </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; your coin, that area appears to be incuse rather than raised. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial"> 3) A personal kick of mine -- these are &quot;CENT&quot;s, not &quot;pennies&quot;, </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; as clearly stated on the coin.&nbsp; Pennies are British coinage </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; (12 to the shilling) and we established our own NEW coinage </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; system when we broke away from the Brits in the late 1700&#039;s. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; The United States has never struck pennies. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial"> 4) Harold is right that the N-12 crack is missing, but 1831 varieties </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; N-9 and N-12 are very similar but for the obverse cracks -- and </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; they share the same reverse die.&nbsp; I have also attached pictures </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; of an early and late 1831 N-9.&nbsp; Note the light crack on your coin </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; from star 3 to the CENTER of star 4, continuing on to the OUTER </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; point of star 5.&nbsp; The crack on N-12 runs thru the INNER points </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; of all of stars 1-12.&nbsp; Your coin is an early-state N-9. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial"> 5) Harold&#039;s speculation of &quot;possible unique&quot; is 100% on target. </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; All mis-struck coins (commonly called &quot;errors&quot;) are one-of-a- </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; kind items.&nbsp; Even though the same goof may be repeated </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; many times,, each example is unique from its siblings.&nbsp; Your </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; coin is indeed an individual item of fascination, as evidenced </font></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; by the price it brought. </font></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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