1831 Bust Half an O-108?

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  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I'm not that experienced in attributing Capped Bust Half Dollars but I do have two of the Overton books and have used the on-line references. This one looks like the common O108 with Obv 5 and Rev G.

    Would the experienced members verify my attribution or correct me, please?

    BTW, looks like a late die state and a weak strike. What do you think?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Magnus87

    Magnus87 Active Member

    We would like to help, but it’s VERY difficult without pictures…
     
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  4. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Doh! Here they are.

    1831 O-108 Obv.jpg 1831 O-108 Rev.jpg
     
  5. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    My opinion, worthless, is no.

    The triangular pointed 5 is telling, as is the claws, feathers and "button". I understand what could be interpreted as rim "weakness", both obverse and reverse, but then the arrows (especially the center arrow) don't convince me.

    I will defer to a certain member here that I admire for his evaluation of all things CBHs. He knows I am referring to him.
     
  6. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    112 and actually a pretty nice strike--just worn out dies.
     
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  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I wasn't sure about it because the obverse didn't look like a 108, Star 13 too far from the hair curl was the cause of my uncertainty. I'll go back and try again.

    Thanks for the input.
     
  8. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    And there we are. I was certain my Call would be answered.

    I of course concur with your commentary.
     
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  9. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Not having the knowledge, experience or skill with Bust Half Dollars that some members possess, I took @okbustchaser's determination of O-112 and examined my coin more thoroughly. Some of the pickups used by Overton don't really work on this coin due to the weak/non-existent dentils caused by worn dies so I looked elsewhere for definitive diagnostics and lo, found one. The reverse on this coin has a unique shield characteristic where line 3 of stripe 2 extends to the third crossbar. No other 1831 has this unique characteristic and this Reverse J is only paired with one obverse. Here's the photo of the shield. I also verified this using a 30X stereo microscope which gives a much clearer view than my photo.

    Thanks again for the help.

    1831 O-112 Rev-Shield Line Diagnostic.jpg
     
  10. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Looks okay to me I like it. Thanks
     
  11. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Some dates are tricky, especially the later years. Don’t feel bad if you got one wrong.

    Did you have a look at an online reference, too? Sometimes the pictures there can be helpful. E.g.
    http://maibockaddict.com/1831-o-112-r3-capped-bust-half-dollar.shtml
     
  12. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I have that site bookmarked and used it.
     
  13. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Its details like these that make this series most fascinating for me. Thanks for sharing and Mr Chasers input too.
     
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