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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Publius2, post: 7781654, member: 105571&quot;]Logan-McCloskey does say Obverse 1 in LM-3 comes with clash marks in the later die states but they do not say the clash is the gules and azures, which they do say is the case for Obverse 1 in LM-4.1 and LM-4.2.&nbsp; So, I&#039;m not convinced, without further evidence, that the obverse clash in LM-3 is the gules and azures clash.&nbsp; I will have to look for some late state LM-3 examples to try to see what the clash may be, if not the gules and azures.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think I&#039;m on-board with this explanation.&nbsp; Occam&#039;s Razor and all that.&nbsp; While the shield is not the shallowest part of the reverse working die, it is obviously more shallow than the head, wing edges, talons, etc.&nbsp; Also, the portion of Liberty&#039;s hair where the gules and azures clash shows up is also pretty shallow on the working die.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for the insightful comment.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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