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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 279562, member: 112"]That explains why we disagree then.</p><p><br /></p><p>ANA Standards for XF40 - </p><p><br /></p><p>obverse - Wear shows on the hair above the eye and ear, and lightly on the cap and curls. Drapery is lightly worn at neckline in spots. Ear and shoulder clasp are bold. Eye is well defined. Star details are complete.</p><p><br /></p><p>reverse - High points of eagle are worn, but each detail is clearly defined. Neck and leg feathers are very lightly worn. Talons, arrows and olive branch show slight wear. </p><p>Surfaces - Traces of mint luster may still show.</p><p><br /></p><p>ANA Standards for VF30 - </p><p><br /></p><p>obverse - Hair above eye and around ear is worn almost smooth. Balance of hair is well detailed. Ear and shoulder clasp show clearly. Drapery and eye are well defined. Star centers are weak.</p><p><br /></p><p>reverse - Feathers are worn but most details are visible. Some details remain in neck and shield. Talons are well worn. Eyelid is visible. Shield lines are flat but separated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now given these standards - <i>Wear shows on the hair above the eye and ear, and lightly on the cap and curls.</i> - there is more than considerable wear above the eye and the wear on the cap & curls is not what I would call showing lightly.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for these - <i>Drapery is lightly worn at neckline in spots. Ear and shoulder clasp are bold. Eye is well defined. Star details are complete.</i> - The drapery is not exactly lightly worn in spots it is worn almost everywhere. The eye is not well defined and the star details are definitely not complete.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the reverse - <i>High points of eagle are worn, but each detail is clearly defined. Neck and leg feathers are very lightly worn. Talons, arrows and olive branch show slight wear. </i></p><p><i>Surfaces - Traces of mint luster may still show.</i> - The details are not clearly defined, the neck and leg feathers are more than very lightly worn, all but one of the talons and the olive branch are worn almost smooth - that's not quite showing slight wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>But if you read the criteria for the VF grade - the details on the coin match almost to a T. This is why I disagree with the XF grade. It is also why I think we need to follow standards in order to correctly grade coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not trying to say that I'm right and anybody else is wrong - I'm just following the standards as they are written. Yes grading is subjective, but these standards are rather well detailed and I think they speak for themselves. But I'm more than willing to discuss other viewpoints which is why I asked the question for I like to learn as much as anybody else.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 279562, member: 112"]That explains why we disagree then. ANA Standards for XF40 - obverse - Wear shows on the hair above the eye and ear, and lightly on the cap and curls. Drapery is lightly worn at neckline in spots. Ear and shoulder clasp are bold. Eye is well defined. Star details are complete. reverse - High points of eagle are worn, but each detail is clearly defined. Neck and leg feathers are very lightly worn. Talons, arrows and olive branch show slight wear. Surfaces - Traces of mint luster may still show. ANA Standards for VF30 - obverse - Hair above eye and around ear is worn almost smooth. Balance of hair is well detailed. Ear and shoulder clasp show clearly. Drapery and eye are well defined. Star centers are weak. reverse - Feathers are worn but most details are visible. Some details remain in neck and shield. Talons are well worn. Eyelid is visible. Shield lines are flat but separated. Now given these standards - [I]Wear shows on the hair above the eye and ear, and lightly on the cap and curls.[/I] - there is more than considerable wear above the eye and the wear on the cap & curls is not what I would call showing lightly. As for these - [I]Drapery is lightly worn at neckline in spots. Ear and shoulder clasp are bold. Eye is well defined. Star details are complete.[/I] - The drapery is not exactly lightly worn in spots it is worn almost everywhere. The eye is not well defined and the star details are definitely not complete. As for the reverse - [I]High points of eagle are worn, but each detail is clearly defined. Neck and leg feathers are very lightly worn. Talons, arrows and olive branch show slight wear. Surfaces - Traces of mint luster may still show.[/I] - The details are not clearly defined, the neck and leg feathers are more than very lightly worn, all but one of the talons and the olive branch are worn almost smooth - that's not quite showing slight wear. But if you read the criteria for the VF grade - the details on the coin match almost to a T. This is why I disagree with the XF grade. It is also why I think we need to follow standards in order to correctly grade coins. I'm not trying to say that I'm right and anybody else is wrong - I'm just following the standards as they are written. Yes grading is subjective, but these standards are rather well detailed and I think they speak for themselves. But I'm more than willing to discuss other viewpoints which is why I asked the question for I like to learn as much as anybody else.[/QUOTE]
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