1827 Bust Half Edge Lettering OR over HALF Question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by FAT, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. FAT

    FAT New Member

    I have an 1827 Square Base 2 Capped Bust Half Dollar with the edge lettering spaced in such a way that the R in OR is overlapping the H in HALF. It appears to say "OHALF"
    I haven't found any example of this in pictures or in books so I am turning to the rest of the Numismatic comunity for info. Has anyone heard of, seen or have one of this variety half?
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  3. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Hello

    That is super nice. Please post the rest of the coin.

    Amanda
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It's not too unusual. The lettering was on two straight edge dies and the blank was rolled between them impressing the inscription on the edge and upsetting the rim at the same time. If the dies were not retracted completely to their starting point, of if the coin slipped during the rolling, the lettering of the two dies could overlap.
     
  5. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Can we see the rest of it?
     
  6. FAT

    FAT New Member

    pictures

    I'll post them tonight when I get home.
    Does over lapping edge lettering increase the value?
     
  7. FAT

    FAT New Member

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  9. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Very nice, but what is happening on the cheek?
     
  10. FAT

    FAT New Member

    At some point in the coins 185 year life it was nicked by something. :)
     
  11. FAT

    FAT New Member

    What grade would you say this coin is in?
     
  12. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Hello

    I think it is damaged on the cheek and wouldn't get a grade. But that is not the same as saying that it is valueless. It is far from a coin without value. Many of these are damaged.


    Amanda
     
  13. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It would not get a numerical grade due to the damage on the obverse. But if it were sent to a TPG, you could expect to get it back "fine details".
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    This is a very minor overlap and would most likely not add any value.
     
  15. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I have several in this condition, minus the cheek scratches. I would say these would grade out a low VF. There's still enough detail to warrant the grade, but it will be a details coin.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    What Condor said.

    The variations are endless.

    The only ones that are valuable, as far as edge variations are those with double lettering (see below).

    I have only seen one, and I managed to cherry pick it (natch).

    Varieties per Overton:

    All edge lettering Doubled- RARE
    All edge letting tripled-- very rare

    Entirely plain edge, extremely rare
    Flip over all lettering doubled-- extremely rare.

    He does not assign values.
     
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