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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisild, post: 1829113, member: 39&quot;]Well, I am in NW (Rhineland), and in 1796 France occupied the area where I now live. In 1815 Prussia swallowed it, because some kings, princes, etc. had made that decision in Vienna. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Self-determination? Hardly.</p><p><br /></p><p>Interestingly, quite a few people initially reacted positively to the changes the French brought here: the ideas of the French revolution, civil rights, legal changes (the Prussians were wise enough to to not replace the Code Civil, written in the &quot;modern&quot; spirit of the Enlightenment, with their Preußisches Landrecht in the occupied territories). It was primarily Napoleon&#039;s wars that changed people&#039;s views: Why should they starve or die for his ambitions?</p><p><br /></p><p>Had the winners of the alliance against Napoleonic France actually put the ideas of Stein and particularly Hardenberg into practice after 1813 or 1815, my opinion about the aftermath of the Battle of Leipzig would be a little different. But that did not or hardly happen then ...</p><p><br /></p><p>Wait, this is a coin forum <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie6" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> so let me add something else: Last year the Russian central bank came up with a <a href="http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/Base_of_memorable_coins/ShowCoins.aspx?cat_num=5712-00095 ruble coin" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cbr.ru/eng/bank-notes_coins/Base_of_memorable_coins/ShowCoins.aspx?cat_num=5712-00095 ruble coin" rel="nofollow">5 ruble coin</a> which commemorates the battle. This year Deutsche Post issued a <a href="https://philatelie.deutschepost.de/out/pictures/z1/004620_b_z1.jpg" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://philatelie.deutschepost.de/out/pictures/z1/004620_b_z1.jpg" rel="nofollow">45 ct stamp</a> commemorating ... no, not the 200th anniversary of the battle but the 100th anniversary of the opening of the battle memorial.</p><p><br /></p><p>(Sorry, Jaques, for the little detour ...)</p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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