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<p>[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26225100, member: 86815"]I have been slabbing shipwreck coins for posterity as I'm conscious that on my passing bits of paper will go missing and the slab is verification of origin. I also go out of my way to buy detailed slabs as cleaned. Why?</p><p>Ancient to mid 19th century coins have so many potential differences, no two hammered coins are the same because of human error and coins tone differently because of storage and climate so I buy coins for their looks not some crazy points system to differentiate millions of other coins. I buy on aesthetics and personal taste.</p><p>I buy detailed coins because particularly in the UK a raw coin might be beyond my reach. As soon as it has the dreaded details stigma value falls away. Here is a coin in question out of a slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1674936[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p>A couple of nicks on the cheek but a natural tone and I would say about EF.</p><p>Value in this state about $900.</p><p>Now pay $50 to slab it.</p><p><img src="https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-1578-4d92-99b1-d58ac9901ab0/NGC2921980-020_OBV.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> [ATTACH=full]1674881[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-1578-4d92-99b1-d58ac9901ab0/NGC2921980-020_REV.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>No mention of artificial toning but the stigma of the details mention has dramatically reduced the value to probably $300.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is another "problem" coin which is a beautiful coin in the hand.</p><p><img src="https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-3600-4d0b-bf2f-0ce9792d7c82/TN_NGC2921980-022_OBV.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-3600-4d0b-bf2f-0ce9792d7c82/TN_NGC2921980-022_REV.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>In the hand, unless you really scrutinise the coin with a loupe, you can't easily see the scratches on the reverse which are on the horses flank. The details comment intimate that the coin is a train crash which it isn't.</p><p>If we look at hammered coins then the details comments are often quite laughable because they mainly all came out of the ground.</p><p>It's a really interesting subject and other than for authenticity, I wouldn't really get hung up on slab grading with ancient and hammered coins. You should see the obvious anyway and will like the coin or not.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dafydd, post: 26225100, member: 86815"]I have been slabbing shipwreck coins for posterity as I'm conscious that on my passing bits of paper will go missing and the slab is verification of origin. I also go out of my way to buy detailed slabs as cleaned. Why? Ancient to mid 19th century coins have so many potential differences, no two hammered coins are the same because of human error and coins tone differently because of storage and climate so I buy coins for their looks not some crazy points system to differentiate millions of other coins. I buy on aesthetics and personal taste. I buy detailed coins because particularly in the UK a raw coin might be beyond my reach. As soon as it has the dreaded details stigma value falls away. Here is a coin in question out of a slab. [ATTACH=full]1674936[/ATTACH] A couple of nicks on the cheek but a natural tone and I would say about EF. Value in this state about $900. Now pay $50 to slab it. [IMG]https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-1578-4d92-99b1-d58ac9901ab0/NGC2921980-020_OBV.jpg[/IMG] [ATTACH=full]1674881[/ATTACH] [IMG]https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-1578-4d92-99b1-d58ac9901ab0/NGC2921980-020_REV.jpg[/IMG] No mention of artificial toning but the stigma of the details mention has dramatically reduced the value to probably $300. Here is another "problem" coin which is a beautiful coin in the hand. [IMG]https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-3600-4d0b-bf2f-0ce9792d7c82/TN_NGC2921980-022_OBV.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://ccg-imaging-ngc-coins-production.s3.amazonaws.com/17271062-3600-4d0b-bf2f-0ce9792d7c82/TN_NGC2921980-022_REV.jpg[/IMG] In the hand, unless you really scrutinise the coin with a loupe, you can't easily see the scratches on the reverse which are on the horses flank. The details comment intimate that the coin is a train crash which it isn't. If we look at hammered coins then the details comments are often quite laughable because they mainly all came out of the ground. It's a really interesting subject and other than for authenticity, I wouldn't really get hung up on slab grading with ancient and hammered coins. You should see the obvious anyway and will like the coin or not.[/QUOTE]
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