1812 Capped bust Half

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  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I did a little more research on this subject. Although it was hard to find a coin in the same condition. I did find one the exhibits some of the crusty toning like mine has.
    This one is from a legend auction. The neck cheek and ear area, along with the peripherals seem to have the same looking texture.
    https://legendauctions.hibid.com/lot/29137244/50c-1812-o-104a--ngc-ms62/

    I don't know that I am seeing a rusted die. The coin looks extremely original, and I am scared to even give it a dip in acetone for fear of what it might remove from the surfaces.
    I wish I had an Overton reference, to see the exact diagnostics that define an O-104 from a O-104a. From what I have been reading and present in the description in a Heritage auction.
    One of the diagnostics for the O-104a is the die scratch through the left facing wing.
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-...u55-pcgs/a/1207-3455.s?hdnJumpToLot=1&x=0&y=0
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    There is a small die rack from the bust to the 1 in the date it is hard to see. IMG_0002_1.JPG
     
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  3. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    The die scratch is present on all 104s--regardless of die state. It disappears with wear on the coin.

    The a die state is determined by
    Obverse: Die crack from left of 1 in date across end of bust to star 1.
    Reverse: Fine die cracks at NITED and top of STATES. Another fine crack from olive leaves across eagle and scroll to OF.

    Not my coin:
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  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thanks there really isn't much information on line to make the distinction.
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Seeing the closeup of the date makes me think that bumpiness I see is just an artefact of the heavy die flow lines.
     
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  6. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    With these new pictures, I was starting to lean that way myself.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I love the Coin. Thanks Ya'll for helping me decipher all of it.
     
  8. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Just some fun shots that I need to get better at.
    No doubt that it is a O-104.
    Here is the die crack thru states. IMG_0009.JPG IMG_0010.JPG IMG_0011.JPG IMG_0012.JPG
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Playing with the Magnifying glass.
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