1808 half, ebay return...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Vertigo, Aug 13, 2022.

  1. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Recently bought this 1808 capped bust half on ebay. The first 2 pictures are the sellers and the rest are mine. I thought it looked like there was some scratches in the sellers pictures. But in hand this coin was scratch city. I spent a couple hours looking it over and every time I got it in a different angle I found another light scratch. The ones you see in my pictures aren't even nearly what's there. Some were so light you can only see them with the loupe. Obviously it's bad enough as it is. But in hand it just gets worse. I messaged the seller and said wow the longer I look at this thing the more scratches I see. It was dropped at the post office this morning when they opened the doors. As for the seller, his user ID is "the_first_dollar"
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    How much did you pay for it?
     
  4. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The scratches look to be fairly recent. Yes, marks like this can ruin your enjoyment of a coin.
     
  5. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    This is the reason I got good at gleaning information from photos. The scratches, while definitely not as prominent in the sellers photos as yours, are there. If i see hints of what may be scratches in sellers photos i usually assume they're more prominent in hand.
     
  6. Matthew Kruse

    Matthew Kruse Young Numismatist

    I can definitely see your frustration based off the two photos the seller provided. Especially with the scratch on the eagle's left wing, its barely visible in the seller's photo.

    Was the seller understanding and let you open up a return or did you have to get help from eBay?
     
  7. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    I filed it and it went right through. There was no requesting or anything. I suspected light marks but it was blatantly obvious and hidden and totally undisclosed in the auction. But based on where it would grade the price was discounted. But not enough to make up for all these marks. I wouldn't even want it in my collection unless it was given to me or inherited. I think he's used to returns. And someone out there will probably give him his asking price for it. I will say, the obverse is really nice in hand. I just wish the reverse would have been.
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Those look like recent scratches. I’d return that coin.
     
  9. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    The bad thing is, the obverse was beautiful. Very nice in hand. Needs made into a love token lol. The only way I would want a coin like that would be if it was one of the great rarities of the series. And even then I think I would prefer a cleaned versus scratched.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I would almost bet the scratches came from staples in a 2X2.
     
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  12. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    You know I been trying to figure out what might have caused these. And I bet you you're right. They for the most part were light enough. It left New Hampshire last night...
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    That is ridiculous,


    I'm glad you sent it back
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I went to a show years ago and bought a gather high dollar coin in a PCGS slab. I put it in my pocket to keep it safe. Later I bought something in a 2X2 and without thinking, I stuck it in the same pocket. When I got back to the hotel that night after a long day, the slab was a total mess. Even a polish would not help. Taught me a great lesson on the damage staples can do.
     
  15. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    Might even get delivered to him today!
     
  16. Vertigo

    Vertigo Did someone say bust?

    That didn't even take long
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    That’s great and deserves positive feedback.
     
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