1807/6 Large Cent. Small or Large 7?

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  1. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    Hard to make out. Is this the large or small 7?

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  3. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Looks like large 7 to me.
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  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 Casual Collector / error expert "in Training "

    Large here also . :happy:
  5. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Edit: I'm really not sure. It seems large.

    Last edited: Jul 31, 2021
  6. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Do you see a 5 in the right field opposite his lips?

    I'm hoping it's a large.
  7. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

    The vertical line in 7 seems to be thin but well worn. Maybe it is wishful thinking.
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  9. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    This looks like the Large "7" variety due to...

    1. Closeness of the "7" to the "0".
    2. Width of the diagonal piece of the "7" near the the horizontal piece.
    3. The shape of the drapery just above the "7".
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  10. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    The "5" in the field are just random scratches (imo).
  11. AuldFartte

    AuldFartte Supporter! Supporter

    Yup. This.
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Definitely Large. Look at the point of the 1 relative to the intersection of the hair and neck. The photos cut off right where this is located on the comps. But it is clear on the Subject.

    The "small" overdate has several points to recognize than the size of the 7. The 1 is close to the curl, the HWH is underneath the R and the SHWH is almost under the upright of the E. And the most obvious on a coin with at least this much detail is the Blunt 1 on the S-272 (small 7) compared to the Pointed 1 on the S-273 (large 7.)

    This last diagnostic often makes PMD at the bottom of the 7 on other varieties more difficult to detect than the large 7 overdate.
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2021
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  13. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I know, but it's an example of just how easily Pareidolia can 'hit'.
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I always ignore the 7 and look at the distance from the 1 to the curl just left of it. On the small 7 the 1 is right up against the curl (about 1/2 its own width away)
    On the large 7 it is well away from the curl (almost twice its own width away) Compare those distances to the OP coin and it becomes obvious which one it is.
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  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Therefore, a Large 7
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  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Why would you rather have a large 7 than a small 7?
  17. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Perhaps I misunderstood something since I am certainly not an expert or even a specialist on this coin , or any other for that matter, but, for some reason, I was under the impression that the "large" was the more desirable of the two.

    I was merely hoping that my fellow CTer would get (what I believed) he was hoping for.

    This could be considered a learning experience : of why it might take so long to become a truly knowledgeable coin collector ?
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    In Good the large 7 is about $135. The small 7 is $3000.
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  19. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info, in this learning experience.
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