1804 Half Cent-Planchet Flaw or PMD?

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  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    So here's a low-grade 1804 C-13 half cent. Very common one that I've had for a while but I've never been able to decide if the obverse flaw at K10 is a planchet flaw or some form of PMD like concentrated corrosion.

    Your thoughts are welcome.

    DSC_0881-side.jpg Planchet Flaw.jpg
     
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    You might have something there not %100 sure,nice half cent.
     
  4. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    There was one like this on I think CU the other day. I'm not an expert so I won't say its right but I think planchet flaw. Don't have time to look for CU thread, sorry.
     
  5. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Just to my eye, it does seem to be a planchet flaw of some sort. However, I am not sure if there are any distinguishing characteristics of planchet flaws as opposed to PMD. It looks similar to other planchet flaws based on it's ragged texture, but there are probably other things that could cause that.
     
  6. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I say Rim damage , cropped-letting-go-open-hands.jpg
     
  7. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    The line I outlined in purple is what makes me think it's a planchet flaw. Just a guess as I'm no expert.
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  8. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Planchet camp. Reason: reverse @10.
     
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  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I think that it's a planchet flaw because of the area highlighted in purple in the above photograph. It might be a small lamination that dropped out after the coin was struck.

    Unlike modern coins, mint related flaws like this lower the value of the piece, especially if the coin is high grade. In this case, it should not make much of a difference given that it is well worn and a common date and variety.
     
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  10. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Thank you all for your thoughts. I am still inclined to think it a planchet flaw. BTW, it doesn't make any difference to me, either intellectually or financially, which it is. I was trying to determine if there was a diagnostic here that was invisible to me that could be used on other coins to make this determination.

    Ah, if only I had purchased that scanning electron microscope off Craig's List. Then I could really see down into the fracture surfaces to make the determination.

    Thanks again.
     
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    My first and only thought is: That's a planchet flaw.
     
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  12. AuldFartte

    AuldFartte Well-Known Member

    Agreed.
     
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  13. Beefer518

    Beefer518 Well-Known Member

    Planchet flaw, my thoughts were solidified by your purple line.
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Tough call for me, but I lean towards planchet flaw.
     
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