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<p>[QUOTE="wlwhittier, post: 904719, member: 18320"]Just acquired this slug (cheaply, fully aware of it being un-genuine) and have a few issues for the forum, if you please:</p><p><br /></p><p>The 'pimples' above her head in the word LIBERTY (and various other places) suggest a cast origin, but the (reeded!) edge shown no sign of a seam. The obverse is not well centered in the coin, and the reverse isn't 'clocked' accurately to the obverse. The weight at 22.3 gm and diameter at 37.9 mm complete the specifications. There are MANY other indicators of the suspect nature of this coin, obvious upon cursory examination even to one with as little experience as myself. </p><p><br /></p><p>My question is: do any of you have opinion or knowledge of whether this was made before the requirement for 'COPY' to appear (I do not know when that was), and whether (or if) it was made to deceive (fraud) or to entertain, or simply to demonstrate the appearance (of what may be one of the rarest of U.S. coins) to those who would otherwise have no opportunity to see one? This last assumes the coin was made prior to the widespread availability of macro-photography.</p><p><br /></p><p>I remain pleased to have it and look forward, as always, to hearing your comments.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="wlwhittier, post: 904719, member: 18320"]Just acquired this slug (cheaply, fully aware of it being un-genuine) and have a few issues for the forum, if you please: The 'pimples' above her head in the word LIBERTY (and various other places) suggest a cast origin, but the (reeded!) edge shown no sign of a seam. The obverse is not well centered in the coin, and the reverse isn't 'clocked' accurately to the obverse. The weight at 22.3 gm and diameter at 37.9 mm complete the specifications. There are MANY other indicators of the suspect nature of this coin, obvious upon cursory examination even to one with as little experience as myself. My question is: do any of you have opinion or knowledge of whether this was made before the requirement for 'COPY' to appear (I do not know when that was), and whether (or if) it was made to deceive (fraud) or to entertain, or simply to demonstrate the appearance (of what may be one of the rarest of U.S. coins) to those who would otherwise have no opportunity to see one? This last assumes the coin was made prior to the widespread availability of macro-photography. I remain pleased to have it and look forward, as always, to hearing your comments.[/QUOTE]
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